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Attributes | |
ACN | 309709 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cnm |
State Reference | NM |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Sail Plane |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked ground : preflight |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 285 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 309709 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 5300 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 310025 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The occurrence: as the captain taxied out for takeoff we crossed runway 08 and saw a sailplane and truck at the end of the runway (the sailplane was on the runway and the truck was off the runway). The captain (PF) decided to takeoff on runway 32L. To do this you must back taxi. As we turned to back taxi on runway 32L it looked as if the sailplane was at the end of runway 14R (runways 14R and 08 are connected at the end). I told the captain I thought the sailplane was on runway 14R. The captain then tried to contact the sailplane on 122.8 to see if they were on that frequency since we got no reply on the CTAF 122.95. We got a response. The captain then asked what their intentions were. We did not get any response to the captain's question. The captain continued to back taxi for takeoff on runway 32L. He turned the aircraft around for takeoff and proceeded to takeoff. I told the captain I thought the sailplane was at the end of the runway we were on and using, and said 'I wouldn't do this if I were you!' by that time he had the power up and some airspeed so I did not think it would be wise for me to take the controls from him. I thought that would be more dangerous than the actual occurrence. The captain thinks they were at the end of runway 08 (which connects with runway 14R). I told him I didn't think so. The aircraft on takeoff seemed to have cleared well above the sailplane. Contributing factors: poor pilot judgement on the captain's part! Poor radio communications, the sailplane was on the wrong frequency (122.8) the correct CTAF was 122.95. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the first officer was flying a beech 1900 when the crew flew over the glider on the far end of the runway. He said that in the future he would be much stronger person in a conflict such as this. The company has spoken to the flight crew about the incident and seemed satisfied. The FAA did not get involved. The glider operator no longer flies out of this airport, due in part, according to this reporter, to a number of conflicts with other operations at the field.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TKOF ON OCCUPIED RWY -- ACR TAKES OFF WHILE A GLIDER IS ON THE OPPOSITE END OF THE RWY.
Narrative: THE OCCURRENCE: AS THE CAPT TAXIED OUT FOR TKOF WE CROSSED RWY 08 AND SAW A SAILPLANE AND TRUCK AT THE END OF THE RWY (THE SAILPLANE WAS ON THE RWY AND THE TRUCK WAS OFF THE RWY). THE CAPT (PF) DECIDED TO TKOF ON RWY 32L. TO DO THIS YOU MUST BACK TAXI. AS WE TURNED TO BACK TAXI ON RWY 32L IT LOOKED AS IF THE SAILPLANE WAS AT THE END OF RWY 14R (RWYS 14R AND 08 ARE CONNECTED AT THE END). I TOLD THE CAPT I THOUGHT THE SAILPLANE WAS ON RWY 14R. THE CAPT THEN TRIED TO CONTACT THE SAILPLANE ON 122.8 TO SEE IF THEY WERE ON THAT FREQ SINCE WE GOT NO REPLY ON THE CTAF 122.95. WE GOT A RESPONSE. THE CAPT THEN ASKED WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS WERE. WE DID NOT GET ANY RESPONSE TO THE CAPT'S QUESTION. THE CAPT CONTINUED TO BACK TAXI FOR TKOF ON RWY 32L. HE TURNED THE ACFT AROUND FOR TKOF AND PROCEEDED TO TKOF. I TOLD THE CAPT I THOUGHT THE SAILPLANE WAS AT THE END OF THE RWY WE WERE ON AND USING, AND SAID 'I WOULDN'T DO THIS IF I WERE YOU!' BY THAT TIME HE HAD THE PWR UP AND SOME AIRSPD SO I DID NOT THINK IT WOULD BE WISE FOR ME TO TAKE THE CTLS FROM HIM. I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE MORE DANGEROUS THAN THE ACTUAL OCCURRENCE. THE CAPT THINKS THEY WERE AT THE END OF RWY 08 (WHICH CONNECTS WITH RWY 14R). I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T THINK SO. THE ACFT ON TKOF SEEMED TO HAVE CLRED WELL ABOVE THE SAILPLANE. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: POOR PLT JUDGEMENT ON THE CAPT'S PART! POOR RADIO COMS, THE SAILPLANE WAS ON THE WRONG FREQ (122.8) THE CORRECT CTAF WAS 122.95. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE FO WAS FLYING A BEECH 1900 WHEN THE CREW FLEW OVER THE GLIDER ON THE FAR END OF THE RWY. HE SAID THAT IN THE FUTURE HE WOULD BE MUCH STRONGER PERSON IN A CONFLICT SUCH AS THIS. THE COMPANY HAS SPOKEN TO THE FLC ABOUT THE INCIDENT AND SEEMED SATISFIED. THE FAA DID NOT GET INVOLVED. THE GLIDER OPERATOR NO LONGER FLIES OUT OF THIS ARPT, DUE IN PART, ACCORDING TO THIS RPTR, TO A NUMBER OF CONFLICTS WITH OTHER OPS AT THE FIELD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.