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Attributes | |
ACN | 310542 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw tower : dfw tracon : grr |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 310542 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 310543 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | aircraft : equipment problem dissipated flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 5000 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were cleared for takeoff on runway 18L at dfw with a 185 degree heading at the marker. After flaps up and climb power, we received an RA shortly after 1000 ft AGL. Target was less than 1 mi at 3 O'clock and 100 ft above. TCASII gave 1 'descend' and commanded massive (1200 ft plus) rate down. There never was another 'descend,' 'monitor vertical speed' or clear of conflict.' neither tower or departure had any traffic in our area at the time. Supplemental information from acn 310543: we never had visual contact and only had the 1 verbal command from TCASII. Departure control only had the wbound commuter on radar. Callback conversation with reporter from acn #310543 revealed the following information from 310543: the reporter was the non- flying captain on this trip. He has been so pleased with TCASII and its operation that he never considered the possibility of a false alarm. He now agrees that this could have been the situation as neither he, the flying first officer, nor ATC saw any other traffic. The WX was 'good,' he 'should have been able to see any traffic.' the TCASII was not written up in the logbook as the reporter did not consider a false alarm.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POSSIBLE FALSE TCASII ALARM, POSSIBLE LTSS IN THE TFC PATTERN.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 18L AT DFW WITH A 185 DEG HDG AT THE MARKER. AFTER FLAPS UP AND CLB PWR, WE RECEIVED AN RA SHORTLY AFTER 1000 FT AGL. TARGET WAS LESS THAN 1 MI AT 3 O'CLOCK AND 100 FT ABOVE. TCASII GAVE 1 'DSND' AND COMMANDED MASSIVE (1200 FT PLUS) RATE DOWN. THERE NEVER WAS ANOTHER 'DSND,' 'MONITOR VERT SPD' OR CLR OF CONFLICT.' NEITHER TWR OR DEP HAD ANY TFC IN OUR AREA AT THE TIME. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 310543: WE NEVER HAD VISUAL CONTACT AND ONLY HAD THE 1 VERBAL COMMAND FROM TCASII. DEP CTL ONLY HAD THE WBOUND COMMUTER ON RADAR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR FROM ACN #310543 REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO FROM 310543: THE RPTR WAS THE NON- FLYING CAPT ON THIS TRIP. HE HAS BEEN SO PLEASED WITH TCASII AND ITS OP THAT HE NEVER CONSIDERED THE POSSIBILITY OF A FALSE ALARM. HE NOW AGREES THAT THIS COULD HAVE BEEN THE SIT AS NEITHER HE, THE FLYING FO, NOR ATC SAW ANY OTHER TFC. THE WX WAS 'GOOD,' HE 'SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE ANY TFC.' THE TCASII WAS NOT WRITTEN UP IN THE LOGBOOK AS THE RPTR DID NOT CONSIDER A FALSE ALARM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.