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Attributes | |
ACN | 311131 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : djb |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 15000 msl bound upper : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob tower : atl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream III |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 2 |
ASRS Report | 311131 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 24600 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Aircraft X, an E120, was a cle departure en route to buf climbing to 17000 ft via the djb 054 degree radial.fails./.buf. Aircraft Y, an RNAV equipped G3, was a cle departure en route to hpn climbing to 13000 ft via the djb 054 degree radial.fails.dny,VALRE2.hpn. X had left 13000 ft in his climb. Immediately after issuing 13000 ft to Y, I cleared him direct to dny, which he read back in acknowledgement. Approximately 1 min later Y questioned the direct clearance. Again, I issued direct dny and a climb clearance to FL230, both of which he acknowledged. Approximately 30 seconds later, having stopped X at 15000 ft, I realized that I would not have sufficient vertical separation once lateral separation was lost. Y was turned right to a 120 degree heading for traffic. Moments later, Y was observed leaving 16000 ft, and reclred direct dny. At this point Y asked for the spelling of dny, which I missed. 90 seconds later, Y asked for the 3-LETTER identify for dny, to which I responded phonetically. 3 mins and 30 seconds elapsed from the time Y initially read back the direct clearance, and finally was made to understand the direct clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LESS THAN LEGAL SEPARATION OF 2 ACFT ON CLB.
Narrative: ACFT X, AN E120, WAS A CLE DEP ENRTE TO BUF CLBING TO 17000 FT VIA THE DJB 054 DEG RADIAL.FAILS./.BUF. ACFT Y, AN RNAV EQUIPPED G3, WAS A CLE DEP ENRTE TO HPN CLBING TO 13000 FT VIA THE DJB 054 DEG RADIAL.FAILS.DNY,VALRE2.HPN. X HAD LEFT 13000 FT IN HIS CLB. IMMEDIATELY AFTER ISSUING 13000 FT TO Y, I CLRED HIM DIRECT TO DNY, WHICH HE READ BACK IN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. APPROX 1 MIN LATER Y QUESTIONED THE DIRECT CLRNC. AGAIN, I ISSUED DIRECT DNY AND A CLB CLRNC TO FL230, BOTH OF WHICH HE ACKNOWLEDGED. APPROX 30 SECONDS LATER, HAVING STOPPED X AT 15000 FT, I REALIZED THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT VERT SEPARATION ONCE LATERAL SEPARATION WAS LOST. Y WAS TURNED R TO A 120 DEG HDG FOR TFC. MOMENTS LATER, Y WAS OBSERVED LEAVING 16000 FT, AND RECLRED DIRECT DNY. AT THIS POINT Y ASKED FOR THE SPELLING OF DNY, WHICH I MISSED. 90 SECONDS LATER, Y ASKED FOR THE 3-LETTER IDENT FOR DNY, TO WHICH I RESPONDED PHONETICALLY. 3 MINS AND 30 SECONDS ELAPSED FROM THE TIME Y INITIALLY READ BACK THE DIRECT CLRNC, AND FINALLY WAS MADE TO UNDERSTAND THE DIRECT CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.