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Attributes | |
ACN | 311250 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bos |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4700 msl bound upper : 4700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bos tower : int |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 311250 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While acting as PIC for commuter flight we departed boston climbing to 4000 ft. We were assigned a heading of 360 degrees for traffic which was in our 12-2 O'clock position at 4700 ft. With traffic in sight, we were cleared to climb to 12000 ft while maintaining visual separation. Also, a direct pease when able was received. An air carrier Y flight was advised that we would be approaching from their 6 O'clock position and would be overtaking them while maintaining visual separation. Shortly after that, air carrier Y asked the controllers if they showed traffic near them. Once again the controller advised them of us. We kept them on our left side, passed on their right at a safe distance. Air carrier Y changed their course to the left and descended. Since we were still below them at the time (and climbing), their descent did bring us a little closer, but at no time was safety compromised. Air carrier Y reported that their TCASII advised them of traffic. I did tell the air carrier Y crew they should get their equipment checked. If indeed their TCASII told them to descend and turn left, one would have to question the reliability of the TCASII equipment in a real collision avoidance situation. Our aircraft was not equipped with TCASII.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER HAS CLOSE PROX WITH ACR ACFT RESPONDING TO TCASII.
Narrative: WHILE ACTING AS PIC FOR COMMUTER FLT WE DEPARTED BOSTON CLBING TO 4000 FT. WE WERE ASSIGNED A HDG OF 360 DEGS FOR TFC WHICH WAS IN OUR 12-2 O'CLOCK POS AT 4700 FT. WITH TFC IN SIGHT, WE WERE CLRED TO CLB TO 12000 FT WHILE MAINTAINING VISUAL SEPARATION. ALSO, A DIRECT PEASE WHEN ABLE WAS RECEIVED. AN ACR Y FLT WAS ADVISED THAT WE WOULD BE APCHING FROM THEIR 6 O'CLOCK POS AND WOULD BE OVERTAKING THEM WHILE MAINTAINING VISUAL SEPARATION. SHORTLY AFTER THAT, ACR Y ASKED THE CTLRS IF THEY SHOWED TFC NEAR THEM. ONCE AGAIN THE CTLR ADVISED THEM OF US. WE KEPT THEM ON OUR L SIDE, PASSED ON THEIR R AT A SAFE DISTANCE. ACR Y CHANGED THEIR COURSE TO THE L AND DSNDED. SINCE WE WERE STILL BELOW THEM AT THE TIME (AND CLBING), THEIR DSCNT DID BRING US A LITTLE CLOSER, BUT AT NO TIME WAS SAFETY COMPROMISED. ACR Y RPTED THAT THEIR TCASII ADVISED THEM OF TFC. I DID TELL THE ACR Y CREW THEY SHOULD GET THEIR EQUIP CHKED. IF INDEED THEIR TCASII TOLD THEM TO DSND AND TURN L, ONE WOULD HAVE TO QUESTION THE RELIABILITY OF THE TCASII EQUIP IN A REAL COLLISION AVOIDANCE SIT. OUR ACFT WAS NOT EQUIPPED WITH TCASII.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.