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Attributes | |
ACN | 312870 |
Time | |
Date | 199508 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dtw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 11700 flight time type : 1840 |
ASRS Report | 312870 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to 3000 ft and a 180 degree heading with no clearance to join. As we approached the course we were not able to contact approach because of frequency congestions. After passing the course we were able to contact approach and they gave us a left turn and told us to maintain altitude. We leveled at 3500 ft and followed instructions for a left downwind approach to runway 21L. During a phone conversation with the radar room the supervisor agreed that the controller had not given us clearance to join. He also stated that the aircraft originally following us had us visually at all times.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: OP DEV OCCURS AS APCH CTLR TECHNIQUE ATC COM FAILS TO ISSUE APCH CLRNC.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO 3000 FT AND A 180 DEG HDG WITH NO CLRNC TO JOIN. AS WE APCHED THE COURSE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO CONTACT APCH BECAUSE OF FREQ CONGESTIONS. AFTER PASSING THE COURSE WE WERE ABLE TO CONTACT APCH AND THEY GAVE US A L TURN AND TOLD US TO MAINTAIN ALT. WE LEVELED AT 3500 FT AND FOLLOWED INSTRUCTIONS FOR A L DOWNWIND APCH TO RWY 21L. DURING A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH THE RADAR ROOM THE SUPVR AGREED THAT THE CTLR HAD NOT GIVEN US CLRNC TO JOIN. HE ALSO STATED THAT THE ACFT ORIGINALLY FOLLOWING US HAD US VISUALLY AT ALL TIMES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.