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Attributes | |
ACN | 313032 |
Time | |
Date | 199508 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lax airport : lgb |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2300 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skywagon 185 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Twin Beech 18 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 313032 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1300 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Near perfect VFR. To 'save time' departed lgb VFR heading about 030 degrees and 2000 ft until east of lax 20 DME. Was somewhere above 2300 ft climbing to 3500 ft at time of incident, heading still about 030 degrees, ADF needle deflected about 45 degrees toward emt. Was aimed at a hill area with point shown as 1388 ft east of san gabriel river, southeast of shepherd and southeast of major freeway intersection. I glanced down on the copilot's seat at lax terminal, VFR chart (expiration 1/4/96) to confirm spot, then looked up ahead, at the bottom of a yellowish beech 18, headed east to west in steep right turn, climbing slightly and just below my level. Turning to evade me? He had just passed left of my nose, when I saw him. I rolled left to look at him. He turned southwest then, 1 or 2 mi west and turned north and appeared to descend. Approach to emt? My ADF needle now pointed straight ahead. I crossed emt on a heading of about 320 degrees climbing to 6500 ft northwest thence north toward mojave. Summary: I don't think a non-local pilot can safely slip through the los angeles basin, VFR in uncontrolled airspace without at least an experienced observer on board. Normally I'm IFR both in and out. In addition emt tower is on the chart at 121.2 but I neither highlighted it nor 'wrote' it on a radio prior to lgb departure on a VFR traffic filled sat morning.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT DEPARTED VFR FROM ARPT IN HIGH TFC DENSITY ENVIRONMENT AND EXPERIENCED NMAC WHILE NAVING. ATTN WAS DIVERTED TO TERMINAL CHART.
Narrative: NEAR PERFECT VFR. TO 'SAVE TIME' DEPARTED LGB VFR HDG ABOUT 030 DEGS AND 2000 FT UNTIL E OF LAX 20 DME. WAS SOMEWHERE ABOVE 2300 FT CLBING TO 3500 FT AT TIME OF INCIDENT, HDG STILL ABOUT 030 DEGS, ADF NEEDLE DEFLECTED ABOUT 45 DEGS TOWARD EMT. WAS AIMED AT A HILL AREA WITH POINT SHOWN AS 1388 FT E OF SAN GABRIEL RIVER, SE OF SHEPHERD AND SE OF MAJOR FREEWAY INTXN. I GLANCED DOWN ON THE COPLT'S SEAT AT LAX TERMINAL, VFR CHART (EXPIRATION 1/4/96) TO CONFIRM SPOT, THEN LOOKED UP AHEAD, AT THE BOTTOM OF A YELLOWISH BEECH 18, HEADED E TO W IN STEEP R TURN, CLBING SLIGHTLY AND JUST BELOW MY LEVEL. TURNING TO EVADE ME? HE HAD JUST PASSED L OF MY NOSE, WHEN I SAW HIM. I ROLLED L TO LOOK AT HIM. HE TURNED SW THEN, 1 OR 2 MI W AND TURNED N AND APPEARED TO DSND. APCH TO EMT? MY ADF NEEDLE NOW POINTED STRAIGHT AHEAD. I CROSSED EMT ON A HDG OF ABOUT 320 DEGS CLBING TO 6500 FT NW THENCE N TOWARD MOJAVE. SUMMARY: I DON'T THINK A NON-LCL PLT CAN SAFELY SLIP THROUGH THE LOS ANGELES BASIN, VFR IN UNCTLED AIRSPACE WITHOUT AT LEAST AN EXPERIENCED OBSERVER ON BOARD. NORMALLY I'M IFR BOTH IN AND OUT. IN ADDITION EMT TWR IS ON THE CHART AT 121.2 BUT I NEITHER HIGHLIGHTED IT NOR 'WROTE' IT ON A RADIO PRIOR TO LGB DEP ON A VFR TFC FILLED SAT MORNING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.