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Attributes | |
ACN | 313830 |
Time | |
Date | 199508 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 313830 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 313829 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | vertical : 750 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Climbing out on the worth 5 departure passing approximately 9000 ft MSL, we received a 'reduce climb' RA. We had numerous targets showing within the 10 mi range with a red target within 3 mi at our 11 O'clock position traveling in the opposite direction. The captain was flying and we both were looking out to make sure we had the suspect aircraft in sight. I glanced in and noticed another red target within approximately 3 mi at our 1 O'clock, same altitude, coming at us. I looked out and spotted the plane heading straight over us at approximately 2-3 mi. Just about that time, we received an altitude alert passing approximately 10250 ft MSL. The captain corrected to level flight, reaching approximately 10400 ft MSL momentarily. Center then asked us if we were stopping our climb at 10000 ft because we had traffic at 11 O'clock. Also, just before all this occurred, we had been given several other traffic callouts, so we were busy looking out. Although we did bust the altitude, I feel the attention diverted outside was necessary because of the closeness of these 2 airplanes. I have never been so close to multiple airplanes on departure before. I guess one might say the solution would be to pay better attention, but I really don't feel we were negligent based on the situation. We were paying attention, but there seemed to be planes too close so our attns needed to be diverted outside at that moment. Conditions were day and clear.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ALTDEV ON CLBOUT CAUSED LTSS.
Narrative: CLBING OUT ON THE WORTH 5 DEP PASSING APPROX 9000 FT MSL, WE RECEIVED A 'REDUCE CLB' RA. WE HAD NUMEROUS TARGETS SHOWING WITHIN THE 10 MI RANGE WITH A RED TARGET WITHIN 3 MI AT OUR 11 O'CLOCK POS TRAVELING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. THE CAPT WAS FLYING AND WE BOTH WERE LOOKING OUT TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE SUSPECT ACFT IN SIGHT. I GLANCED IN AND NOTICED ANOTHER RED TARGET WITHIN APPROX 3 MI AT OUR 1 O'CLOCK, SAME ALT, COMING AT US. I LOOKED OUT AND SPOTTED THE PLANE HEADING STRAIGHT OVER US AT APPROX 2-3 MI. JUST ABOUT THAT TIME, WE RECEIVED AN ALT ALERT PASSING APPROX 10250 FT MSL. THE CAPT CORRECTED TO LEVEL FLT, REACHING APPROX 10400 FT MSL MOMENTARILY. CTR THEN ASKED US IF WE WERE STOPPING OUR CLB AT 10000 FT BECAUSE WE HAD TFC AT 11 O'CLOCK. ALSO, JUST BEFORE ALL THIS OCCURRED, WE HAD BEEN GIVEN SEVERAL OTHER TFC CALLOUTS, SO WE WERE BUSY LOOKING OUT. ALTHOUGH WE DID BUST THE ALT, I FEEL THE ATTN DIVERTED OUTSIDE WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE OF THE CLOSENESS OF THESE 2 AIRPLANES. I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO CLOSE TO MULTIPLE AIRPLANES ON DEP BEFORE. I GUESS ONE MIGHT SAY THE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO PAY BETTER ATTN, BUT I REALLY DON'T FEEL WE WERE NEGLIGENT BASED ON THE SIT. WE WERE PAYING ATTN, BUT THERE SEEMED TO BE PLANES TOO CLOSE SO OUR ATTNS NEEDED TO BE DIVERTED OUTSIDE AT THAT MOMENT. CONDITIONS WERE DAY AND CLR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.