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Attributes | |
ACN | 313917 |
Time | |
Date | 199508 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gso |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11500 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : atl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : ztl |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 313917 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
During a normal descent into gso, it was obvious to us that the ZTL controller was overloaded and rapidly losing his grasp of the situation. We were given a descent to 11000 ft inbound to gso on the 285 degree radial. The airspeed was approximately 280-300 KIAS at 2000 FPM down. Between 13000 ft and 12000 ft, we received a TCASII TA followed by an RA to 'reduce descent and monitor vertical speed.' a visual was acquired immediately at 1 O'clock and 1 to 2 mi. We were on a collision bearing. Descent was reduced and the traffic passed clear of us and below us by approximately 500 ft. Traffic was a twin engined, low wing aircraft heading north. There was no indication that he saw us. This happened immediately before switching to gso approach control. There was no time to advise atlanta of the situation. Gso was advised. I feel that the center controller should have asked for backup help. There was no time to fit a word in edgewise. We were cleared to 11000 ft MSL and someone was already there.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MLG SLOWED UP DSCNT IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA.
Narrative: DURING A NORMAL DSCNT INTO GSO, IT WAS OBVIOUS TO US THAT THE ZTL CTLR WAS OVERLOADED AND RAPIDLY LOSING HIS GRASP OF THE SIT. WE WERE GIVEN A DSCNT TO 11000 FT INBOUND TO GSO ON THE 285 DEG RADIAL. THE AIRSPD WAS APPROX 280-300 KIAS AT 2000 FPM DOWN. BTWN 13000 FT AND 12000 FT, WE RECEIVED A TCASII TA FOLLOWED BY AN RA TO 'REDUCE DSCNT AND MONITOR VERT SPD.' A VISUAL WAS ACQUIRED IMMEDIATELY AT 1 O'CLOCK AND 1 TO 2 MI. WE WERE ON A COLLISION BEARING. DSCNT WAS REDUCED AND THE TFC PASSED CLR OF US AND BELOW US BY APPROX 500 FT. TFC WAS A TWIN ENGINED, LOW WING ACFT HEADING N. THERE WAS NO INDICATION THAT HE SAW US. THIS HAPPENED IMMEDIATELY BEFORE SWITCHING TO GSO APCH CTL. THERE WAS NO TIME TO ADVISE ATLANTA OF THE SIT. GSO WAS ADVISED. I FEEL THAT THE CTR CTLR SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR BACKUP HELP. THERE WAS NO TIME TO FIT A WORD IN EDGEWISE. WE WERE CLRED TO 11000 FT MSL AND SOMEONE WAS ALREADY THERE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.