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Attributes | |
ACN | 313970 |
Time | |
Date | 199508 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : rbv airport : ewr |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny tower : dca |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zny |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 313970 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were given a clearance to cross holey at or above 11000 ft and cross robinsville at 9000 ft going into ewr. We were on the arrival into ewr at the time. We read back cross holey at or below 11000 ft and cross robinsville at 9000 ft. We were descending through 10000 ft when center asked us to verify that we were at 10000 ft. We did verify and were advised that clearance was at or above 11000 ft not at or below. We were advised this was not a problem, just a surprise to see us at 10000 ft in that area not 11000 ft and to continue our descent to 9000 ft. The clearance should have been cross holey at 11000 ft and expect robinsville at 9000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLC MISUNDERSTOOD CLRNC OF 'AT OR ABOVE' FOR 'AT OR BELOW' AND CROSSED INTXN BELOW CLRNC ALT. FLC WAS NOT CORRECTED AFTER READBACK.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN A CLRNC TO CROSS HOLEY AT OR ABOVE 11000 FT AND CROSS ROBINSVILLE AT 9000 FT GOING INTO EWR. WE WERE ON THE ARR INTO EWR AT THE TIME. WE READ BACK CROSS HOLEY AT OR BELOW 11000 FT AND CROSS ROBINSVILLE AT 9000 FT. WE WERE DSNDING THROUGH 10000 FT WHEN CTR ASKED US TO VERIFY THAT WE WERE AT 10000 FT. WE DID VERIFY AND WERE ADVISED THAT CLRNC WAS AT OR ABOVE 11000 FT NOT AT OR BELOW. WE WERE ADVISED THIS WAS NOT A PROB, JUST A SURPRISE TO SEE US AT 10000 FT IN THAT AREA NOT 11000 FT AND TO CONTINUE OUR DSCNT TO 9000 FT. THE CLRNC SHOULD HAVE BEEN CROSS HOLEY AT 11000 FT AND EXPECT ROBINSVILLE AT 9000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.