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Attributes | |
ACN | 314345 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10100 msl bound upper : 10250 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Trainer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : military |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 112 flight time total : 850 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 314345 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : military |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was on a routine training mission at approximately XX30 climbing to 17000 ft. It was a hazy morning with the sun low in the sky, no discernable horizon. I had just turned to an e-ne heading to join the victor airway. The nose of the aircraft was set at approximately 7 degree nose high. Upon reaching 10000 ft, I looked down to check my oxygen system and asked my other crew members to check his, as per checklist requires. When I looked up, an object approaching my right wing from front to rear, caught my attention. A quick glance revealed a twin engine aircraft painted mostly white with 2 stripes: 1 light blue, 1 red. The pilot was wearing a blue shirt and had black hair. My altitude was approximately 10100-10250 ft and my heading was approximately 075 degrees. I called departure control to report what I saw. They indicated a 'shin paint' blip 4 mi behind my aircraft. They had 'negative radio contact, no flight plan, and no transponder readout.' I filed an near midair collision and am awaiting the final results. I believe the RAPCON controllers weren't watching the screens because they were capable of picking up shin paint after he passed me but not before. When I first indicated I had a near miss and wanted to file a near midair collision, there was a long pause before I got a response. It's everyone's responsibility to clear their own flight path but there are times when even that is not possible. With the sun reflecting off of my aircraft and the sun to the back of the wbound aircraft, it's difficult to come up with a reason for such a close call.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A MIL TRAINING ACFT HAD NMAC WITH ANOTHER ACFT WHILE CLBING IN VFR CONDITIONS.
Narrative: I WAS ON A ROUTINE TRAINING MISSION AT APPROX XX30 CLBING TO 17000 FT. IT WAS A HAZY MORNING WITH THE SUN LOW IN THE SKY, NO DISCERNABLE HORIZON. I HAD JUST TURNED TO AN E-NE HDG TO JOIN THE VICTOR AIRWAY. THE NOSE OF THE ACFT WAS SET AT APPROX 7 DEG NOSE HIGH. UPON REACHING 10000 FT, I LOOKED DOWN TO CHK MY OXYGEN SYS AND ASKED MY OTHER CREW MEMBERS TO CHK HIS, AS PER CHKLIST REQUIRES. WHEN I LOOKED UP, AN OBJECT APCHING MY R WING FROM FRONT TO REAR, CAUGHT MY ATTN. A QUICK GLANCE REVEALED A TWIN ENG ACFT PAINTED MOSTLY WHITE WITH 2 STRIPES: 1 LIGHT BLUE, 1 RED. THE PLT WAS WEARING A BLUE SHIRT AND HAD BLACK HAIR. MY ALT WAS APPROX 10100-10250 FT AND MY HDG WAS APPROX 075 DEGS. I CALLED DEP CTL TO RPT WHAT I SAW. THEY INDICATED A 'SHIN PAINT' BLIP 4 MI BEHIND MY ACFT. THEY HAD 'NEGATIVE RADIO CONTACT, NO FLT PLAN, AND NO XPONDER READOUT.' I FILED AN NMAC AND AM AWAITING THE FINAL RESULTS. I BELIEVE THE RAPCON CTLRS WEREN'T WATCHING THE SCREENS BECAUSE THEY WERE CAPABLE OF PICKING UP SHIN PAINT AFTER HE PASSED ME BUT NOT BEFORE. WHEN I FIRST INDICATED I HAD A NEAR MISS AND WANTED TO FILE A NMAC, THERE WAS A LONG PAUSE BEFORE I GOT A RESPONSE. IT'S EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY TO CLR THEIR OWN FLT PATH BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN EVEN THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE. WITH THE SUN REFLECTING OFF OF MY ACFT AND THE SUN TO THE BACK OF THE WBOUND ACFT, IT'S DIFFICULT TO COME UP WITH A REASON FOR SUCH A CLOSE CALL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.