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Attributes | |
ACN | 316015 |
Time | |
Date | 199509 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : iflq airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2800 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 316015 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
7 NM behind B747 on visual to runway 17L encountered moderate wake turbulence. We climbed 200 to 300 ft to get out of it. Approach chastised us for climbing. Hey you got to do what you got to do to be safe. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter was a captain flying an MD80, super 80, and he was about 10 mi out on final approach to runway 17L at dfw when he encountered the wake of a B747. He said that the aircraft rolled left then right to a maximum bank angle of about 15 degrees in spite of having full aileron deflection against the rolls. To escape the wake the captain said that he pitched up and climbed a few hundred ft and found smooth air. However the approach controller was a bit critical about this maneuver. The captain was able to continue the approach and landing by staying high on the GS. The captain said that the company responded to a further inquiry from the approach control facility and they were satisfied that his maneuver was in the interest of safety.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WAKE ENCOUNTER. ACR MD80 HITS THE WAKE OF A B747 DURING FINAL APCH.
Narrative: 7 NM BEHIND B747 ON VISUAL TO RWY 17L ENCOUNTERED MODERATE WAKE TURB. WE CLBED 200 TO 300 FT TO GET OUT OF IT. APCH CHASTISED US FOR CLBING. HEY YOU GOT TO DO WHAT YOU GOT TO DO TO BE SAFE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR WAS A CAPT FLYING AN MD80, SUPER 80, AND HE WAS ABOUT 10 MI OUT ON FINAL APCH TO RWY 17L AT DFW WHEN HE ENCOUNTERED THE WAKE OF A B747. HE SAID THAT THE ACFT ROLLED L THEN R TO A MAX BANK ANGLE OF ABOUT 15 DEGS IN SPITE OF HAVING FULL AILERON DEFLECTION AGAINST THE ROLLS. TO ESCAPE THE WAKE THE CAPT SAID THAT HE PITCHED UP AND CLBED A FEW HUNDRED FT AND FOUND SMOOTH AIR. HOWEVER THE APCH CTLR WAS A BIT CRITICAL ABOUT THIS MANEUVER. THE CAPT WAS ABLE TO CONTINUE THE APCH AND LNDG BY STAYING HIGH ON THE GS. THE CAPT SAID THAT THE COMPANY RESPONDED TO A FURTHER INQUIRY FROM THE APCH CTL FACILITY AND THEY WERE SATISFIED THAT HIS MANEUVER WAS IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.