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Attributes | |
ACN | 316675 |
Time | |
Date | 199509 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ffm |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 25000 msl bound upper : 26000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : edff |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute airway : edff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 316675 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
In an attempt to make a crossing restr of FL250, during climb out, the PF went to make climb thrust and went to vertical speed control from profile climb control (exchanging airspeed for altitude). At FL260, after making crossing restr of FL250, the PF returned to profile control. We were given a 15 degree turn to the left by ATC and the PF resumed normal climb thrust (I did not observe this at the time). I noticed and called to his attention that the airspeed was approaching the minimum speed indicator and reached for the vertical speed control (we were still in a slight climb). He said that he recognized the airspeed, but was correcting. Since he stated he was aware of the situation and that he had it under control, I did not override the profile with vertical speed. The airspeed continued to decrease and the stick shaker became active. The nose was still above the horizon and the stick shaker again became active. The aircraft never stalled, full flight control was maintained, but the reaction to the degrading airspeed was too slow. The PF assumed that the profile mode of the autoplt/FMS would keep the aircraft out of any low speed envelope. This is a case of too much faith in the 'magic' of the modern electronic cockpit. The high altitude, low speed, small turn, and return to normal climb power slowed the autoplt/FMS response and corrections. Crews should not wait for 'the system' to induce proper corrections, but instead override with adequate and timely responses as needed, especially in low air speed, high altitude environments. Then re-engage the 'magic.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AIRSPD DECAY AFTER MAKING XING RESTR. FMS CONFUSION.
Narrative: IN AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE A XING RESTR OF FL250, DURING CLBOUT, THE PF WENT TO MAKE CLB THRUST AND WENT TO VERT SPD CTL FROM PROFILE CLB CTL (EXCHANGING AIRSPD FOR ALT). AT FL260, AFTER MAKING XING RESTR OF FL250, THE PF RETURNED TO PROFILE CTL. WE WERE GIVEN A 15 DEG TURN TO THE L BY ATC AND THE PF RESUMED NORMAL CLB THRUST (I DID NOT OBSERVE THIS AT THE TIME). I NOTICED AND CALLED TO HIS ATTN THAT THE AIRSPD WAS APCHING THE MINIMUM SPD INDICATOR AND REACHED FOR THE VERT SPD CTL (WE WERE STILL IN A SLIGHT CLB). HE SAID THAT HE RECOGNIZED THE AIRSPD, BUT WAS CORRECTING. SINCE HE STATED HE WAS AWARE OF THE SIT AND THAT HE HAD IT UNDER CTL, I DID NOT OVERRIDE THE PROFILE WITH VERT SPD. THE AIRSPD CONTINUED TO DECREASE AND THE STICK SHAKER BECAME ACTIVE. THE NOSE WAS STILL ABOVE THE HORIZON AND THE STICK SHAKER AGAIN BECAME ACTIVE. THE ACFT NEVER STALLED, FULL FLT CTL WAS MAINTAINED, BUT THE REACTION TO THE DEGRADING AIRSPD WAS TOO SLOW. THE PF ASSUMED THAT THE PROFILE MODE OF THE AUTOPLT/FMS WOULD KEEP THE ACFT OUT OF ANY LOW SPD ENVELOPE. THIS IS A CASE OF TOO MUCH FAITH IN THE 'MAGIC' OF THE MODERN ELECTRONIC COCKPIT. THE HIGH ALT, LOW SPD, SMALL TURN, AND RETURN TO NORMAL CLB PWR SLOWED THE AUTOPLT/FMS RESPONSE AND CORRECTIONS. CREWS SHOULD NOT WAIT FOR 'THE SYS' TO INDUCE PROPER CORRECTIONS, BUT INSTEAD OVERRIDE WITH ADEQUATE AND TIMELY RESPONSES AS NEEDED, ESPECIALLY IN LOW AIR SPD, HIGH ALT ENVIRONMENTS. THEN RE-ENGAGE THE 'MAGIC.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.