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Attributes | |
ACN | 318171 |
Time | |
Date | 199510 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : psb airport : unv |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5500 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DHC-7 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 318171 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties |
Miss Distance | vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
There was a chain of events that led to a miscom between ATC and my aircraft. Due to the miscom I departed my assigned altitude during a hold. It occurred on flight (air carrier X) from laf to unv under an IFR flight plan. As I got close to my destination (unv), the WX had deteriorated significantly. At or about XA45 I got holding instructions over psb VOR by ZNY. I entered the holding and held as instructed by ATC at 6000 ft. ATC was extremely busy with numerous aircraft on the frequency. I was busy as well flying with an unexperienced new first officer. Shortly after holding, the first officer acknowledged a right turn and a descend to 4000 ft to ATC. I questioned the first officer if he was sure those instructions were for us, he replied very positively the instructions were for flight (air carrier X). I began to turn and left my assigned altitude from 6000 ft to 4000 ft. Shortly afterwards ATC questioned where is (air carrier X) going. The first officer replied, 'descending to 4000 ft,' ATC shouted not to descend because we had another aircraft holding at 5000 ft. I immediately climbed as fast as possible to 6000 ft. The controller did not make any further remarks for the remaining of the flight. The initial clearance was for another aircraft, but the controller never acknowledged it was not for us. If the controller ever told us that the clearance was not for us, his response was blocked by the numerous aircraft on the frequency. The remaining of the flight proceeded without any further incidents. ATC never acknowledged during the remainder of the flight that there would be any action taken due to the deviation. After I landed, I received a phone call from ZNY advising me that the tapes will be pulled and to be aware that they would proceed with a violation. No further information was given to me over the phone.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN MDT DSNDED FROM ASSIGNED ALT AFTER FOLLOWING CLRNC FOR ANOTHER ACFT.
Narrative: THERE WAS A CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT LED TO A MISCOM BTWN ATC AND MY ACFT. DUE TO THE MISCOM I DEPARTED MY ASSIGNED ALT DURING A HOLD. IT OCCURRED ON FLT (ACR X) FROM LAF TO UNV UNDER AN IFR FLT PLAN. AS I GOT CLOSE TO MY DEST (UNV), THE WX HAD DETERIORATED SIGNIFICANTLY. AT OR ABOUT XA45 I GOT HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS OVER PSB VOR BY ZNY. I ENTERED THE HOLDING AND HELD AS INSTRUCTED BY ATC AT 6000 FT. ATC WAS EXTREMELY BUSY WITH NUMEROUS ACFT ON THE FREQ. I WAS BUSY AS WELL FLYING WITH AN UNEXPERIENCED NEW FO. SHORTLY AFTER HOLDING, THE FO ACKNOWLEDGED A R TURN AND A DSND TO 4000 FT TO ATC. I QUESTIONED THE FO IF HE WAS SURE THOSE INSTRUCTIONS WERE FOR US, HE REPLIED VERY POSITIVELY THE INSTRUCTIONS WERE FOR FLT (ACR X). I BEGAN TO TURN AND LEFT MY ASSIGNED ALT FROM 6000 FT TO 4000 FT. SHORTLY AFTERWARDS ATC QUESTIONED WHERE IS (ACR X) GOING. THE FO REPLIED, 'DSNDING TO 4000 FT,' ATC SHOUTED NOT TO DSND BECAUSE WE HAD ANOTHER ACFT HOLDING AT 5000 FT. I IMMEDIATELY CLBED AS FAST AS POSSIBLE TO 6000 FT. THE CTLR DID NOT MAKE ANY FURTHER REMARKS FOR THE REMAINING OF THE FLT. THE INITIAL CLRNC WAS FOR ANOTHER ACFT, BUT THE CTLR NEVER ACKNOWLEDGED IT WAS NOT FOR US. IF THE CTLR EVER TOLD US THAT THE CLRNC WAS NOT FOR US, HIS RESPONSE WAS BLOCKED BY THE NUMEROUS ACFT ON THE FREQ. THE REMAINING OF THE FLT PROCEEDED WITHOUT ANY FURTHER INCIDENTS. ATC NEVER ACKNOWLEDGED DURING THE REMAINDER OF THE FLT THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY ACTION TAKEN DUE TO THE DEV. AFTER I LANDED, I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM ZNY ADVISING ME THAT THE TAPES WILL BE PULLED AND TO BE AWARE THAT THEY WOULD PROCEED WITH A VIOLATION. NO FURTHER INFO WAS GIVEN TO ME OVER THE PHONE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.