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Attributes | |
ACN | 319574 |
Time | |
Date | 199510 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mva |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 32700 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zoa |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-82 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 319574 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
The main purpose of this report is to provide further data for wake encounters with B757 aircraft for your recent study. Our aircraft, an MD80, was passing through FL327 to level off at FL330. We encountered a moderate 'bump' and the aircraft immediately rolled into a 20-30 degree left bank, and then rolled right slightly past wing level. During this encounter the autoplt kicked off and I rolled level and leveled the aircraft at our assigned altitude of 33000 ft. During the encounter we had associated turbulence that made us feel it was a wake turbulence penetration. We reported the event to ATC and asked what the type of aircraft was that we were following, and our distance. ATC replied that it was a B757 at 5 1/2 mi ahead. We could see him visually at this point and I believe he was at our altitude in the same direction. What surprised me about this encounter was the abruptness of the induced roll (enough to trip the autoplt), and our distance from the B757. It was also the first time I had encountered such strong wake at cruise altitude. You'd think 5-6 mi separation would be enough, but apparently not here. After level off the autoplt was re-connected and no further incident was experienced. I felt certain that this was a wake encounter as no other chop was present at our altitude. I had also never really felt turbulence to induce a roll like this before. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: this callback in conjunction with wake turbulence incident callback questionnaire. Reporter was surprised, first in encountering the wake turbulence at high altitude, then also at the abruptness and strength of it, especially since they were 6 mi in trail of the B757. In the future he will be more aware of the potential of wake turbulence when following a B757. He would like for ATC to provide more information when following a B757.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WAKE TURB BEHIND B757 AT HIGH ALT.
Narrative: THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS RPT IS TO PROVIDE FURTHER DATA FOR WAKE ENCOUNTERS WITH B757 ACFT FOR YOUR RECENT STUDY. OUR ACFT, AN MD80, WAS PASSING THROUGH FL327 TO LEVEL OFF AT FL330. WE ENCOUNTERED A MODERATE 'BUMP' AND THE ACFT IMMEDIATELY ROLLED INTO A 20-30 DEG L BANK, AND THEN ROLLED R SLIGHTLY PAST WING LEVEL. DURING THIS ENCOUNTER THE AUTOPLT KICKED OFF AND I ROLLED LEVEL AND LEVELED THE ACFT AT OUR ASSIGNED ALT OF 33000 FT. DURING THE ENCOUNTER WE HAD ASSOCIATED TURB THAT MADE US FEEL IT WAS A WAKE TURB PENETRATION. WE RPTED THE EVENT TO ATC AND ASKED WHAT THE TYPE OF ACFT WAS THAT WE WERE FOLLOWING, AND OUR DISTANCE. ATC REPLIED THAT IT WAS A B757 AT 5 1/2 MI AHEAD. WE COULD SEE HIM VISUALLY AT THIS POINT AND I BELIEVE HE WAS AT OUR ALT IN THE SAME DIRECTION. WHAT SURPRISED ME ABOUT THIS ENCOUNTER WAS THE ABRUPTNESS OF THE INDUCED ROLL (ENOUGH TO TRIP THE AUTOPLT), AND OUR DISTANCE FROM THE B757. IT WAS ALSO THE FIRST TIME I HAD ENCOUNTERED SUCH STRONG WAKE AT CRUISE ALT. YOU'D THINK 5-6 MI SEPARATION WOULD BE ENOUGH, BUT APPARENTLY NOT HERE. AFTER LEVEL OFF THE AUTOPLT WAS RE-CONNECTED AND NO FURTHER INCIDENT WAS EXPERIENCED. I FELT CERTAIN THAT THIS WAS A WAKE ENCOUNTER AS NO OTHER CHOP WAS PRESENT AT OUR ALT. I HAD ALSO NEVER REALLY FELT TURB TO INDUCE A ROLL LIKE THIS BEFORE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THIS CALLBACK IN CONJUNCTION WITH WAKE TURB INCIDENT CALLBACK QUESTIONNAIRE. RPTR WAS SURPRISED, FIRST IN ENCOUNTERING THE WAKE TURB AT HIGH ALT, THEN ALSO AT THE ABRUPTNESS AND STRENGTH OF IT, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY WERE 6 MI IN TRAIL OF THE B757. IN THE FUTURE HE WILL BE MORE AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL OF WAKE TURB WHEN FOLLOWING A B757. HE WOULD LIKE FOR ATC TO PROVIDE MORE INFO WHEN FOLLOWING A B757.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.