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Reporter understood controller to say maintain visual from an aircraft on final approach. Then reporter heard cleared for the visual follow that aircraft. As the reporter started following that aircraft the controller said he was not cleared to follow that aircraft and was vectored to follow another aircraft farther out on the approach.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 322480 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199512 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : clt |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 4000 agl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : clt |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 35 flight time total : 9600 flight time type : 1100 |
| ASRS Report | 322480 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 322482 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Understood clearance from clt approach to maintain visual separation from another aircraft on approach and follow with clearance to follow for visual approach to runway 36R. Started turn to west to follow traffic that was pointed out. Read back cleared to follow traffic (in sight). Part way into turn approximately 30 degrees (210 degree heading) controller called said we didn't have clearance to follow and turn back to 180 degrees and continue descent to 2300 ft. Saw more traffic on final (that we were supposed to follow, dash 8). He was further out and not at position initially called. Other aircraft was in that position. No close encounters!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR UNDERSTOOD CTLR TO SAY MAINTAIN VISUAL FROM AN ACFT ON FINAL APCH. THEN RPTR HEARD CLRED FOR THE VISUAL FOLLOW THAT ACFT. AS THE RPTR STARTED FOLLOWING THAT ACFT THE CTLR SAID HE WAS NOT CLRED TO FOLLOW THAT ACFT AND WAS VECTORED TO FOLLOW ANOTHER ACFT FARTHER OUT ON THE APCH.
Narrative: UNDERSTOOD CLRNC FROM CLT APCH TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION FROM ANOTHER ACFT ON APCH AND FOLLOW WITH CLRNC TO FOLLOW FOR VISUAL APCH TO RWY 36R. STARTED TURN TO W TO FOLLOW TFC THAT WAS POINTED OUT. READ BACK CLRED TO FOLLOW TFC (IN SIGHT). PART WAY INTO TURN APPROX 30 DEGS (210 DEG HDG) CTLR CALLED SAID WE DIDN'T HAVE CLRNC TO FOLLOW AND TURN BACK TO 180 DEGS AND CONTINUE DSCNT TO 2300 FT. SAW MORE TFC ON FINAL (THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW, DASH 8). HE WAS FURTHER OUT AND NOT AT POS INITIALLY CALLED. OTHER ACFT WAS IN THAT POS. NO CLOSE ENCOUNTERS!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.