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Attributes | |
ACN | 323460 |
Time | |
Date | 199512 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : grr |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 175 |
ASRS Report | 323460 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
After landing, because of the conditions, I did not lean on the brakes or use maximum reverse. When I was close to the taxiway entrance I tested the braking real good and reported to the tower the braking was fair to good. But when I turned left off the runway the surface was icy. I wouldn't have to go far before I would have to turn left again so I tested the braking right away. I had no brakes. The plane was just sliding forward. To keep the plane from going onto the field I used reverse thrust. This stopped my forward movement. Then the plane just slid 15 ft to the right with the right main tires off the pavement. We just slid off the crown of the taxiway. I informed the tower where I was, then called our maintenance people to bring a tug out with the towbar. Since the right main wheels wouldn't roll the plane wanted to go right when I added power to move. So I didn't try to move the plane until our mechanic inspected the area by the gear. The ground was frozen so the mains did not sink. The airport authority/authorized sent a truck out to sand the area in front of the plane and the rest of the taxiway. With the aid of the tug and a little help from the 3 running engines the airplane moved forward back on the taxiway. End of problem. I thought the airport could have been more helpful to inform us that the txwys were icy. They did not. They should have told me to go to the end of the runway and turn left, because that area was sanded whereas the area I was in was not sanded. After another B727 landed I called him and recommended he not use the parallel taxiway that was nearest the runway. Only the outer parallel taxiway was sanded. He took my advice! The situation was unfortunate because the city and surrounding area had experienced an ice storm the day and night before our arrival. When we landed the temperatures finally got above freezing to 34 degrees. This was a B727.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727-200 TURNS OFF RWY ONTO ICY TXWY WITH RESULTING LOSS OF ACFT CTL.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG, BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS, I DID NOT LEAN ON THE BRAKES OR USE MAX REVERSE. WHEN I WAS CLOSE TO THE TXWY ENTRANCE I TESTED THE BRAKING REAL GOOD AND RPTED TO THE TWR THE BRAKING WAS FAIR TO GOOD. BUT WHEN I TURNED L OFF THE RWY THE SURFACE WAS ICY. I WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO FAR BEFORE I WOULD HAVE TO TURN L AGAIN SO I TESTED THE BRAKING RIGHT AWAY. I HAD NO BRAKES. THE PLANE WAS JUST SLIDING FORWARD. TO KEEP THE PLANE FROM GOING ONTO THE FIELD I USED REVERSE THRUST. THIS STOPPED MY FORWARD MOVEMENT. THEN THE PLANE JUST SLID 15 FT TO THE R WITH THE R MAIN TIRES OFF THE PAVEMENT. WE JUST SLID OFF THE CROWN OF THE TXWY. I INFORMED THE TWR WHERE I WAS, THEN CALLED OUR MAINT PEOPLE TO BRING A TUG OUT WITH THE TOWBAR. SINCE THE R MAIN WHEELS WOULDN'T ROLL THE PLANE WANTED TO GO R WHEN I ADDED PWR TO MOVE. SO I DIDN'T TRY TO MOVE THE PLANE UNTIL OUR MECH INSPECTED THE AREA BY THE GEAR. THE GND WAS FROZEN SO THE MAINS DID NOT SINK. THE ARPT AUTH SENT A TRUCK OUT TO SAND THE AREA IN FRONT OF THE PLANE AND THE REST OF THE TXWY. WITH THE AID OF THE TUG AND A LITTLE HELP FROM THE 3 RUNNING ENGS THE AIRPLANE MOVED FORWARD BACK ON THE TXWY. END OF PROB. I THOUGHT THE ARPT COULD HAVE BEEN MORE HELPFUL TO INFORM US THAT THE TXWYS WERE ICY. THEY DID NOT. THEY SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME TO GO TO THE END OF THE RWY AND TURN L, BECAUSE THAT AREA WAS SANDED WHEREAS THE AREA I WAS IN WAS NOT SANDED. AFTER ANOTHER B727 LANDED I CALLED HIM AND RECOMMENDED HE NOT USE THE PARALLEL TXWY THAT WAS NEAREST THE RWY. ONLY THE OUTER PARALLEL TXWY WAS SANDED. HE TOOK MY ADVICE! THE SIT WAS UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE THE CITY AND SURROUNDING AREA HAD EXPERIENCED AN ICE STORM THE DAY AND NIGHT BEFORE OUR ARR. WHEN WE LANDED THE TEMPS FINALLY GOT ABOVE FREEZING TO 34 DEGS. THIS WAS A B727.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.