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Attributes | |
ACN | 324010 |
Time | |
Date | 199512 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bpr |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10700 msl bound upper : 11400 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw tower : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 324010 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
First officer was flying. I waited a little too long to get ATIS and change over. I was in the process of accomplishing this when we went through FL180 on our descent near bpr. As a result, I missed the altimeter change. We were cleared to cross didly at 11000 ft. The altimeter setting was 30.39. With 29.92 set in, we leveled off about 400 ft high. First officer saw this while I was getting ATIS. First officer began a 200-300 FPM descent to get to 11000 ft. Neither one of us can recall if he pulled the altitude arming knob, but we got an altitude warning at 10700 ft and climbed back up to 11000 ft. The controller also advised us to maintain 11000 ft. We also were late on our turn onto the radial off of bpr, but I think we remained within required limits on that. My feeling is that waiting until that late in the leg to start getting all the duties done for our descent and landing was the primary cause of our difficulties combined with the very high altimeter setting that morning. That is a pretty busy arrival, and both pilots in the loop is really essential for a safe operation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC FAILED TO SET LCL ALTIMETER SETTING DSNDING THROUGH FL180. THE FLC LEVELED OFF 400 FT HIGH AND THEN DSNDED BELOW ASSIGNED ALT TRYING TO GET ON ASSIGNED ALT. THE FLC ALSO MISSED THEIR TURN AT BPR RADIAL.
Narrative: FO WAS FLYING. I WAITED A LITTLE TOO LONG TO GET ATIS AND CHANGE OVER. I WAS IN THE PROCESS OF ACCOMPLISHING THIS WHEN WE WENT THROUGH FL180 ON OUR DSCNT NEAR BPR. AS A RESULT, I MISSED THE ALTIMETER CHANGE. WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS DIDLY AT 11000 FT. THE ALTIMETER SETTING WAS 30.39. WITH 29.92 SET IN, WE LEVELED OFF ABOUT 400 FT HIGH. FO SAW THIS WHILE I WAS GETTING ATIS. FO BEGAN A 200-300 FPM DSCNT TO GET TO 11000 FT. NEITHER ONE OF US CAN RECALL IF HE PULLED THE ALT ARMING KNOB, BUT WE GOT AN ALT WARNING AT 10700 FT AND CLBED BACK UP TO 11000 FT. THE CTLR ALSO ADVISED US TO MAINTAIN 11000 FT. WE ALSO WERE LATE ON OUR TURN ONTO THE RADIAL OFF OF BPR, BUT I THINK WE REMAINED WITHIN REQUIRED LIMITS ON THAT. MY FEELING IS THAT WAITING UNTIL THAT LATE IN THE LEG TO START GETTING ALL THE DUTIES DONE FOR OUR DSCNT AND LNDG WAS THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF OUR DIFFICULTIES COMBINED WITH THE VERY HIGH ALTIMETER SETTING THAT MORNING. THAT IS A PRETTY BUSY ARR, AND BOTH PLTS IN THE LOOP IS REALLY ESSENTIAL FOR A SAFE OP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.