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Attributes | |
ACN | 324116 |
Time | |
Date | 199512 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bos |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-8 62 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : bos |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 324116 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 324096 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were flying gardner 2 (GDM2) arrival at bos. Late at night the crew was very tired and WX marginal VFR. At 29 DME on gdm 111 degree radial we turned to heading 210 degrees. Approach control asked about heading change. We must have turned early! ATC stated it was ok because there was no traffic. They also stated it happens all the time!! It appears that heading change should be made at 49 mi and not 29 mi. This chart is very confusing and hard to read. At rever a large 49 DME would eliminate this potential problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HEADING DEV. MISREAD TURN POINT DME. CHART SHOULD BE CHANGED TO READ BETTER.
Narrative: WE WERE FLYING GARDNER 2 (GDM2) ARR AT BOS. LATE AT NIGHT THE CREW WAS VERY TIRED AND WX MARGINAL VFR. AT 29 DME ON GDM 111 DEG RADIAL WE TURNED TO HDG 210 DEGS. APCH CTL ASKED ABOUT HDG CHANGE. WE MUST HAVE TURNED EARLY! ATC STATED IT WAS OK BECAUSE THERE WAS NO TFC. THEY ALSO STATED IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME!! IT APPEARS THAT HDG CHANGE SHOULD BE MADE AT 49 MI AND NOT 29 MI. THIS CHART IS VERY CONFUSING AND HARD TO READ. AT REVER A LARGE 49 DME WOULD ELIMINATE THIS POTENTIAL PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.