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Attributes | |
ACN | 324850 |
Time | |
Date | 199512 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mdw |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 324850 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We took off on runway 31C out of mdw airport. Our clearance was to climb to 3000 ft, with a right turn to 090 degrees. When we called departure he said we were only cleared to 2000 ft, but climb and maintain 3000 ft. He then stated and we also repeated -- give me a good rate through 3000 ft, climb and maintain 12000 ft. He then stopped us at 4000 ft wanting to know what we were doing. We stayed at 4000 ft. Traffic went over us at 5000 ft. Major miscom contributed to this starting from departure not talking to the tower about what they needed. All our 'wrong' readbacks were missed also.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MISCOM BTWN ATC AND FLC. EACH TIME ALT CLRNC WAS GIVEN, FLC READ IT BACK. ATC QUESTIONED FLC WHEN CLBING THROUGH THE 'ASSIGNED,' BUT FLC HAD READ BACK THE CLRNC PRIOR.
Narrative: WE TOOK OFF ON RWY 31C OUT OF MDW ARPT. OUR CLRNC WAS TO CLB TO 3000 FT, WITH A R TURN TO 090 DEGS. WHEN WE CALLED DEP HE SAID WE WERE ONLY CLRED TO 2000 FT, BUT CLB AND MAINTAIN 3000 FT. HE THEN STATED AND WE ALSO REPEATED -- GIVE ME A GOOD RATE THROUGH 3000 FT, CLB AND MAINTAIN 12000 FT. HE THEN STOPPED US AT 4000 FT WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING. WE STAYED AT 4000 FT. TFC WENT OVER US AT 5000 FT. MAJOR MISCOM CONTRIBUTED TO THIS STARTING FROM DEP NOT TALKING TO THE TWR ABOUT WHAT THEY NEEDED. ALL OUR 'WRONG' READBACKS WERE MISSED ALSO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.