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Attributes | |
ACN | 325725 |
Time | |
Date | 199601 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cgn |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : hpn |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | observation : company check pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 11400 flight time type : 350 |
ASRS Report | 325725 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was giving IOE to a new captain on a flight from ord to fra. Flight time was planned at 8:28. Upon arrival in the fra airspace we were given a hold of approximately 45 mins. After evaluating our fuel situation we decided that we should go to our alternate (cgn) which was close to where we were holding. After arrival at cgn dispatch sent us a release and the people handling us fueled the airplane. We started the engines and departed for fra. 2 errors took place which made our departure illegal. We had 2 cabin write-ups that we had entered in the logbook and sent via ACARS to alert maintenance. One was a light bulb replacement, and the other was a dirty carpet in a galley that a flight attendant wanted cleaned. Neither items were critical. We are required to clear these items with maintenance per company procedure prior to departing any station. The relief first officer had entered the items in the logbook and I was aware of the entries. The first officer took care of filling out the logbook at cgn and didn't remind me of the entries and I forgot about the fact that we had entered anything, so we departed without clearing these items. Later I found out that had I called our maintenance people I would have been informed that some special fueling procedures had to take place because the people handling our aircraft at the diversion station had not previously been qualified in fueling our type of aircraft. In the future I will put kind of a flag in the logbook as a reminder that we have entered maintenance items that need to be cleared. I was very busy in an unusual situation, having a new captain with me and was getting tired, which I believe led me to overlooking things that should have been done.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC LANDS AT ALTERNATE DUE TO WX, DELAYS, AND LACK OF FUEL TO HOLD LONGER. THE FLC TAKES OFF AFTER GETTING FUEL WITHOUT CLRING OPEN ITEMS WITH MAINT IN THE LOGBOOK. ALSO, THERE WERE SPECIAL FUELING PROCS WHICH WERE SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE BECAUSE PEOPLE HANDLING HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY BEEN QUALIFIED IN FUELING THIS TYPE ACFT.
Narrative: I WAS GIVING IOE TO A NEW CAPT ON A FLT FROM ORD TO FRA. FLT TIME WAS PLANNED AT 8:28. UPON ARR IN THE FRA AIRSPACE WE WERE GIVEN A HOLD OF APPROX 45 MINS. AFTER EVALUATING OUR FUEL SIT WE DECIDED THAT WE SHOULD GO TO OUR ALTERNATE (CGN) WHICH WAS CLOSE TO WHERE WE WERE HOLDING. AFTER ARR AT CGN DISPATCH SENT US A RELEASE AND THE PEOPLE HANDLING US FUELED THE AIRPLANE. WE STARTED THE ENGS AND DEPARTED FOR FRA. 2 ERRORS TOOK PLACE WHICH MADE OUR DEP ILLEGAL. WE HAD 2 CABIN WRITE-UPS THAT WE HAD ENTERED IN THE LOGBOOK AND SENT VIA ACARS TO ALERT MAINT. ONE WAS A LIGHT BULB REPLACEMENT, AND THE OTHER WAS A DIRTY CARPET IN A GALLEY THAT A FLT ATTENDANT WANTED CLEANED. NEITHER ITEMS WERE CRITICAL. WE ARE REQUIRED TO CLR THESE ITEMS WITH MAINT PER COMPANY PROC PRIOR TO DEPARTING ANY STATION. THE RELIEF FO HAD ENTERED THE ITEMS IN THE LOGBOOK AND I WAS AWARE OF THE ENTRIES. THE FO TOOK CARE OF FILLING OUT THE LOGBOOK AT CGN AND DIDN'T REMIND ME OF THE ENTRIES AND I FORGOT ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAD ENTERED ANYTHING, SO WE DEPARTED WITHOUT CLRING THESE ITEMS. LATER I FOUND OUT THAT HAD I CALLED OUR MAINT PEOPLE I WOULD HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT SOME SPECIAL FUELING PROCS HAD TO TAKE PLACE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE HANDLING OUR ACFT AT THE DIVERSION STATION HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY BEEN QUALIFIED IN FUELING OUR TYPE OF ACFT. IN THE FUTURE I WILL PUT KIND OF A FLAG IN THE LOGBOOK AS A REMINDER THAT WE HAVE ENTERED MAINT ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE CLRED. I WAS VERY BUSY IN AN UNUSUAL SIT, HAVING A NEW CAPT WITH ME AND WAS GETTING TIRED, WHICH I BELIEVE LED ME TO OVERLOOKING THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.