Tower flight crew taxi instruction confusion. Airport markings inadequate.

Attributes
ACN	328290
Time
Date	199601
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : cle
State Reference	OH
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	ground : holding ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10500 flight time type : 4000
ASRS Report	328290
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 6850 flight time type : 975
ASRS Report	327288
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation other
Situations
Airport	other physical facility

Narrative:

Cle tower gave taxi instructions to taxi onto runway 28 and hold short of runway 23L. While our aircraft was stopped on runway 28 from taxiway J with the runway 28R sideline painted stripe in front, the tower said: 'hold your position, you are past the hold short line.' I informed the tower we were on runway 28 and he repeated we were 'past the hold short line.' an ov-10 landed on runway 23L in front of us with 100 ft of clearance. Snow was on runway 28 and no hold short line was visible for runway 23L. No hold short point on runway 28 for runway 23L is depicted on the airport map. These 3 intersecting runways are confusing enough, and taxi instructions to hold on runway 28 should not be given when runways 23L and 23R are in use. The flight crew discussed these taxi instructions, and I remarked about a recent incident about an aircraft taking off on the wrong runway under similar taxi instructions.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: TWR FLC TAXI INSTRUCTION CONFUSION. ARPT MARKINGS INADEQUATE.

Narrative: CLE TWR GAVE TAXI INSTRUCTIONS TO TAXI ONTO RWY 28 AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 23L. WHILE OUR ACFT WAS STOPPED ON RWY 28 FROM TXWY J WITH THE RWY 28R SIDELINE PAINTED STRIPE IN FRONT, THE TWR SAID: 'HOLD YOUR POS, YOU ARE PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE.' I INFORMED THE TWR WE WERE ON RWY 28 AND HE REPEATED WE WERE 'PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE.' AN OV-10 LANDED ON RWY 23L IN FRONT OF US WITH 100 FT OF CLRNC. SNOW WAS ON RWY 28 AND NO HOLD SHORT LINE WAS VISIBLE FOR RWY 23L. NO HOLD SHORT POINT ON RWY 28 FOR RWY 23L IS DEPICTED ON THE ARPT MAP. THESE 3 INTERSECTING RWYS ARE CONFUSING ENOUGH, AND TAXI INSTRUCTIONS TO HOLD ON RWY 28 SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN WHEN RWYS 23L AND 23R ARE IN USE. THE FLC DISCUSSED THESE TAXI INSTRUCTIONS, AND I REMARKED ABOUT A RECENT INCIDENT ABOUT AN ACFT TAKING OFF ON THE WRONG RWY UNDER SIMILAR TAXI INSTRUCTIONS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.