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Attributes | |
ACN | 332459 |
Time | |
Date | 199604 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : esv |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 34000 msl bound upper : 34000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : segu |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 332459 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
ATC facility, guayaquil control. Location, esv VOR, sbound along UG437, 5 DME on the 182 degree radial. When approximately 5 DME south of esv VOR, we made our position report to guayaquil control, while simultaneously requesting a descent to a lower altitude in order to prepare for landing at segu (guayaquil). ATC cleared us to descend to 9000 ft. We began our descent, and when passing FL350, we noticed a TCASII target directly below us, same direction of flight. I switched the TCASII range to 5 mi, and observed that the target was stationary, approximately 1/4 mi at our 1 O'clock position, and 2000 ft below. I elected to halt my descent to FL340 to avoid a collision. The first officer advised guayaquil control of the situation, and their response was one of total confusion, as they did not have a clue what we were talking about. I elected to slow to my minimum mach to obtain spacing, and when 5 mi in trail of the traffic, again requested descent when I observed the traffic also in a descent. We were cleared to FL310, and were given numerous step dscnts all the way to landing at guayaquil. In addition, we were turned away from the localizer to runway 21 to obtain additional spacing from the traffic. After landing, I obtained the following information from ground control, and personal observation. The aircraft was an airbus A320. An in-flight collision was averted due to and only because of our refusal to descend as cleared. Separation was obtained only because of our action, and not because of any action on the part of ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: UNDER ATC CTL, DSCNT CLRNC GIVEN WHICH WOULD HAVE DSNDED RPTR ACFT INTO ANOTHER LOWER ACFT. TCASII SHOWED THE TFC, RPTR QUESTIONED ATC.
Narrative: ATC FACILITY, GUAYAQUIL CTL. LOCATION, ESV VOR, SBOUND ALONG UG437, 5 DME ON THE 182 DEG RADIAL. WHEN APPROX 5 DME S OF ESV VOR, WE MADE OUR POS RPT TO GUAYAQUIL CTL, WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY REQUESTING A DSCNT TO A LOWER ALT IN ORDER TO PREPARE FOR LNDG AT SEGU (GUAYAQUIL). ATC CLRED US TO DSND TO 9000 FT. WE BEGAN OUR DSCNT, AND WHEN PASSING FL350, WE NOTICED A TCASII TARGET DIRECTLY BELOW US, SAME DIRECTION OF FLT. I SWITCHED THE TCASII RANGE TO 5 MI, AND OBSERVED THAT THE TARGET WAS STATIONARY, APPROX 1/4 MI AT OUR 1 O'CLOCK POS, AND 2000 FT BELOW. I ELECTED TO HALT MY DSCNT TO FL340 TO AVOID A COLLISION. THE FO ADVISED GUAYAQUIL CTL OF THE SIT, AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS ONE OF TOTAL CONFUSION, AS THEY DID NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. I ELECTED TO SLOW TO MY MINIMUM MACH TO OBTAIN SPACING, AND WHEN 5 MI IN TRAIL OF THE TFC, AGAIN REQUESTED DSCNT WHEN I OBSERVED THE TFC ALSO IN A DSCNT. WE WERE CLRED TO FL310, AND WERE GIVEN NUMEROUS STEP DSCNTS ALL THE WAY TO LNDG AT GUAYAQUIL. IN ADDITION, WE WERE TURNED AWAY FROM THE LOC TO RWY 21 TO OBTAIN ADDITIONAL SPACING FROM THE TFC. AFTER LNDG, I OBTAINED THE FOLLOWING INFO FROM GND CTL, AND PERSONAL OBSERVATION. THE ACFT WAS AN AIRBUS A320. AN INFLT COLLISION WAS AVERTED DUE TO AND ONLY BECAUSE OF OUR REFUSAL TO DSND AS CLRED. SEPARATION WAS OBTAINED ONLY BECAUSE OF OUR ACTION, AND NOT BECAUSE OF ANY ACTION ON THE PART OF ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.