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Commuter flight crew departs non tower airport VFR and had conflict with helicopter departing.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 332590 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199604 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : brl |
| State Reference | IA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 100 agl bound upper : 100 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Jetstream 32 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 4400 flight time type : 550 |
| ASRS Report | 332590 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was the captain on a flight from brl, ia, to stl, mo. This airport is uncontrolled and our company operates scheduled passenger service here. On taxi out of the gate, we completed our taxi checklist and called ZAU for an IFR clearance for takeoff. He was unable to give us an IFR clearance because a helicopter (uh-47) was on the field and had the IFR release from that airport. It was VFR so we decided to take off VFR, and pick up the IFR clearance in the air. We announced we were taking the active and proceeding sbound, and I had visual contact on the helicopter, who was midfield on the grass beside the runway. He announced he was taking off and then a left turn after takeoff. As I advanced the power for takeoff he began to rotate and proceeded straight ahead and paralleled the runway. I had visual contact on the helicopter the whole time, but after rotation, I banked right and quickly passed the helicopter off to his right side, VFR. There was never a conflict or did I feel I was jeopardizing safety, but I overtook the helicopter quickly and from an observer on the ground point of view, it would appear that my aircraft was close to the helicopter. 2 things that would have solved this, if the helicopter turned left after rotation, and I would have waited to see his left turn, before I advanced the power for takeoff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER FLC DEPARTS NON TWR ARPT VFR AND HAD CONFLICT WITH HELI DEPARTING.
Narrative: I WAS THE CAPT ON A FLT FROM BRL, IA, TO STL, MO. THIS ARPT IS UNCTLED AND OUR COMPANY OPERATES SCHEDULED PAX SVC HERE. ON TAXI OUT OF THE GATE, WE COMPLETED OUR TAXI CHKLIST AND CALLED ZAU FOR AN IFR CLRNC FOR TKOF. HE WAS UNABLE TO GIVE US AN IFR CLRNC BECAUSE A HELI (UH-47) WAS ON THE FIELD AND HAD THE IFR RELEASE FROM THAT ARPT. IT WAS VFR SO WE DECIDED TO TAKE OFF VFR, AND PICK UP THE IFR CLRNC IN THE AIR. WE ANNOUNCED WE WERE TAKING THE ACTIVE AND PROCEEDING SBOUND, AND I HAD VISUAL CONTACT ON THE HELI, WHO WAS MIDFIELD ON THE GRASS BESIDE THE RWY. HE ANNOUNCED HE WAS TAKING OFF AND THEN A L TURN AFTER TKOF. AS I ADVANCED THE PWR FOR TKOF HE BEGAN TO ROTATE AND PROCEEDED STRAIGHT AHEAD AND PARALLELED THE RWY. I HAD VISUAL CONTACT ON THE HELI THE WHOLE TIME, BUT AFTER ROTATION, I BANKED R AND QUICKLY PASSED THE HELI OFF TO HIS R SIDE, VFR. THERE WAS NEVER A CONFLICT OR DID I FEEL I WAS JEOPARDIZING SAFETY, BUT I OVERTOOK THE HELI QUICKLY AND FROM AN OBSERVER ON THE GND POINT OF VIEW, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT MY ACFT WAS CLOSE TO THE HELI. 2 THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE SOLVED THIS, IF THE HELI TURNED L AFTER ROTATION, AND I WOULD HAVE WAITED TO SEE HIS L TURN, BEFORE I ADVANCED THE PWR FOR TKOF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.