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The pilot of a paro overtook a cessna while in the pattern. When the pilot located the other traffic, an apology was made, but 2 days later the reporter was contacted regarding the matter.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 334393 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199604 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ggg |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1365 msl bound upper : 1365 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : ggg |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Cessna Single Piston Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 134 |
| ASRS Report | 334393 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I lost sight of cessna after his departure, because I was doing a touch and go. After I took off runway 17, I could not find cessna on his crosswind. I turned crosswind after searching for the cessna. On crosswind I could not see the cessna again. The sun was at approximately eye level, at 12 O'clock and a haze layer was present due to the factories surrounding the airport. I reduced power on my paro to 'pattern power' trying to slow down and give the cessna more time, wherever he was, to get ahead of me and give myself a cushion of space between him and I. Afterwards I turned on right downwind assuming the cessna was already on right downwind. Simultaneously I called tower proclaiming that I would be full stop, and I was assuming tower would tell me where the cessna was. Tower replied with 'follow the cessna.' immediately the cessna told tower that I had cut them off. At that time the cessna was at my 7-8 O'clock position and I had him in sight approximately 1/2 mi away. The cessna was evidently on a wide pattern at approximately my altitude. I apologized, tower cleared me to land, and I landed and waited at my school's hangar for tower to call me if there was a problem. I was contacted 2 days later. I was in a much faster aircraft, and it was my first solo in a complex aircraft. I did not have much experience with the speed of the aircraft in the pattern.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE PLT OF A PARO OVERTOOK A CESSNA WHILE IN THE PATTERN. WHEN THE PLT LOCATED THE OTHER TFC, AN APOLOGY WAS MADE, BUT 2 DAYS LATER THE RPTR WAS CONTACTED REGARDING THE MATTER.
Narrative: I LOST SIGHT OF CESSNA AFTER HIS DEP, BECAUSE I WAS DOING A TOUCH AND GO. AFTER I TOOK OFF RWY 17, I COULD NOT FIND CESSNA ON HIS XWIND. I TURNED XWIND AFTER SEARCHING FOR THE CESSNA. ON XWIND I COULD NOT SEE THE CESSNA AGAIN. THE SUN WAS AT APPROX EYE LEVEL, AT 12 O'CLOCK AND A HAZE LAYER WAS PRESENT DUE TO THE FACTORIES SURROUNDING THE ARPT. I REDUCED PWR ON MY PARO TO 'PATTERN PWR' TRYING TO SLOW DOWN AND GIVE THE CESSNA MORE TIME, WHEREVER HE WAS, TO GET AHEAD OF ME AND GIVE MYSELF A CUSHION OF SPACE BTWN HIM AND I. AFTERWARDS I TURNED ON R DOWNWIND ASSUMING THE CESSNA WAS ALREADY ON R DOWNWIND. SIMULTANEOUSLY I CALLED TWR PROCLAIMING THAT I WOULD BE FULL STOP, AND I WAS ASSUMING TWR WOULD TELL ME WHERE THE CESSNA WAS. TWR REPLIED WITH 'FOLLOW THE CESSNA.' IMMEDIATELY THE CESSNA TOLD TWR THAT I HAD CUT THEM OFF. AT THAT TIME THE CESSNA WAS AT MY 7-8 O'CLOCK POS AND I HAD HIM IN SIGHT APPROX 1/2 MI AWAY. THE CESSNA WAS EVIDENTLY ON A WIDE PATTERN AT APPROX MY ALT. I APOLOGIZED, TWR CLRED ME TO LAND, AND I LANDED AND WAITED AT MY SCHOOL'S HANGAR FOR TWR TO CALL ME IF THERE WAS A PROB. I WAS CONTACTED 2 DAYS LATER. I WAS IN A MUCH FASTER ACFT, AND IT WAS MY FIRST SOLO IN A COMPLEX ACFT. I DID NOT HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE WITH THE SPD OF THE ACFT IN THE PATTERN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.