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An air carrier B757 may have missed a frequency change, or they may have been 'forgotten' in the system.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 338205 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199606 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : atl |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl tracon : sbn |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : private pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 195 flight time total : 7000 |
| ASRS Report | 338205 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 337680 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
During arrival on STAR, the flight was never handed off from ZTL to atl approach control. Upon query by the flight crew, the changeover was made to atl approach control within just a few mi of the field. No known conflict occurred, but approach control requested that we 'call them on the ground.' ZTL claimed to have attempted to contact us with the frequency. When we called with request for instructions, they sounded surprised and asked us our position. We feel that we were momentarily forgotten about by center. We could have possibly noticed and called sooner. (Ie, at point on STAR with 'expect vectors for approach') to avoid this miscom.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B757 MAY HAVE MISSED A FREQ CHANGE, OR THEY MAY HAVE BEEN 'FORGOTTEN' IN THE SYS.
Narrative: DURING ARR ON STAR, THE FLT WAS NEVER HANDED OFF FROM ZTL TO ATL APCH CTL. UPON QUERY BY THE FLC, THE CHANGEOVER WAS MADE TO ATL APCH CTL WITHIN JUST A FEW MI OF THE FIELD. NO KNOWN CONFLICT OCCURRED, BUT APCH CTL REQUESTED THAT WE 'CALL THEM ON THE GND.' ZTL CLAIMED TO HAVE ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT US WITH THE FREQ. WHEN WE CALLED WITH REQUEST FOR INSTRUCTIONS, THEY SOUNDED SURPRISED AND ASKED US OUR POS. WE FEEL THAT WE WERE MOMENTARILY FORGOTTEN ABOUT BY CTR. WE COULD HAVE POSSIBLY NOTICED AND CALLED SOONER. (IE, AT POINT ON STAR WITH 'EXPECT VECTORS FOR APCH') TO AVOID THIS MISCOM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.