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Flight dispatched overwater with no HF communication capability. Reports had to be relayed through other aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 338230 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199606 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zqa |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 39000 msl bound upper : 39000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : other oceanic enroute : atlantic enroute airway : zma |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 1300 |
| ASRS Report | 338230 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 900 |
| ASRS Report | 338245 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Dispatch release stated 'filed on VHF route.' we have no way of verifying if our route requires HF radio or not. Coming up on broom intersection, mia oceanic attempted to hand us off to new york oceanic via HF. We advised them we were not HF capable. They arranged for us to pass from broom to jainy on VHF and maintain contact through other aircraft. We need some way during flight planning to determine if route needs HF radio.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT DISPATCHED OVERWATER WITH NO HF COM CAPABILITY. RPTS HAD TO BE RELAYED THROUGH OTHER ACFT.
Narrative: DISPATCH RELEASE STATED 'FILED ON VHF RTE.' WE HAVE NO WAY OF VERIFYING IF OUR RTE REQUIRES HF RADIO OR NOT. COMING UP ON BROOM INTXN, MIA OCEANIC ATTEMPTED TO HAND US OFF TO NEW YORK OCEANIC VIA HF. WE ADVISED THEM WE WERE NOT HF CAPABLE. THEY ARRANGED FOR US TO PASS FROM BROOM TO JAINY ON VHF AND MAINTAIN CONTACT THROUGH OTHER ACFT. WE NEED SOME WAY DURING FLT PLANNING TO DETERMINE IF RTE NEEDS HF RADIO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.