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Attributes | |
ACN | 338515 |
Time | |
Date | 199606 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 400 agl bound upper : 600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 338515 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On approach to ord runway 27L at 600 ft AGL, autoplt disconnect light (no wailer) came on. Thought autoplt had disconnected. Was unable to control ailerons. Felt like they were in manual reversion. Thought I had hydraulic failure but no indication of such. Then saw that control wheel steering was annunciated on AFDS. Then disconnected autoplt with yoke switch and airplane then flew normally. It took us about 200 ft of descent to figure out autoplt had not disconnected completely. During that 200 ft of descent on GS the aircraft was not ctlable in the roll mode. It was certainly not acting like it was in control wheel steering which was annunciated. In the 9 yrs on this airplane, I have never seen or heard of this, nor have I received any training on this type of malfunction. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter captain has submitted a report to his company, contacted their central air safety chairman and has not yet received a response concerning the faulty autoplt. The autoplt partially disconnected, but remained in control wheel steering, which was not immediately seen due to proximity of scan and on final approach in IMC at night. Reporter captain thought he had lost aileron control of the aircraft, but when disconnecting the autoplt with the yoke button, he regained full control. Reporter says that it was very insidious because an autoplt light came on indicating it was disconnected, when in fact, it wasn't. Also, normally when the autoplt automatic-disconnects, the flight crew can hear the 'snap' as the wafer switch moves to off. He was particularly distressed because of the relationship to apparent flight control problems recently on the B737. He has contacted boeing through some friends and is particularly upset that his company has not followed through with investigating the problem and contacting him with what was found on the aircraft. Maintenance changed the mode control panel and rendered the autoplt inoperative after they landed at ord and the aircraft continued on the next flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING ILS APCH, SHORT FINAL, IMC AND NIGHT, THE AUTOPLT DISCONNECT WARNING LIGHT CAME ONE. RPTR THOUGHT IT HAD DISCONNECTED, BUT WHEN TRYING TO CTL THE ACFT MANUALLY, WAS UNABLE TO GAIN AILERON CTL BEFORE HE DISCONNECTED MANUALLY WITH THE YOKE SWITCH AND IN THE MEANTIME HAD LOST 200 FT ON THE FINAL DSCNT.
Narrative: ON APCH TO ORD RWY 27L AT 600 FT AGL, AUTOPLT DISCONNECT LIGHT (NO WAILER) CAME ON. THOUGHT AUTOPLT HAD DISCONNECTED. WAS UNABLE TO CTL AILERONS. FELT LIKE THEY WERE IN MANUAL REVERSION. THOUGHT I HAD HYD FAILURE BUT NO INDICATION OF SUCH. THEN SAW THAT CTL WHEEL STEERING WAS ANNUNCIATED ON AFDS. THEN DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT WITH YOKE SWITCH AND AIRPLANE THEN FLEW NORMALLY. IT TOOK US ABOUT 200 FT OF DSCNT TO FIGURE OUT AUTOPLT HAD NOT DISCONNECTED COMPLETELY. DURING THAT 200 FT OF DSCNT ON GS THE ACFT WAS NOT CTLABLE IN THE ROLL MODE. IT WAS CERTAINLY NOT ACTING LIKE IT WAS IN CTL WHEEL STEERING WHICH WAS ANNUNCIATED. IN THE 9 YRS ON THIS AIRPLANE, I HAVE NEVER SEEN OR HEARD OF THIS, NOR HAVE I RECEIVED ANY TRAINING ON THIS TYPE OF MALFUNCTION. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR CAPT HAS SUBMITTED A RPT TO HIS COMPANY, CONTACTED THEIR CENTRAL AIR SAFETY CHAIRMAN AND HAS NOT YET RECEIVED A RESPONSE CONCERNING THE FAULTY AUTOPLT. THE AUTOPLT PARTIALLY DISCONNECTED, BUT REMAINED IN CTL WHEEL STEERING, WHICH WAS NOT IMMEDIATELY SEEN DUE TO PROX OF SCAN AND ON FINAL APCH IN IMC AT NIGHT. RPTR CAPT THOUGHT HE HAD LOST AILERON CTL OF THE ACFT, BUT WHEN DISCONNECTING THE AUTOPLT WITH THE YOKE BUTTON, HE REGAINED FULL CTL. RPTR SAYS THAT IT WAS VERY INSIDIOUS BECAUSE AN AUTOPLT LIGHT CAME ON INDICATING IT WAS DISCONNECTED, WHEN IN FACT, IT WASN'T. ALSO, NORMALLY WHEN THE AUTOPLT AUTO-DISCONNECTS, THE FLC CAN HEAR THE 'SNAP' AS THE WAFER SWITCH MOVES TO OFF. HE WAS PARTICULARLY DISTRESSED BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIP TO APPARENT FLT CTL PROBS RECENTLY ON THE B737. HE HAS CONTACTED BOEING THROUGH SOME FRIENDS AND IS PARTICULARLY UPSET THAT HIS COMPANY HAS NOT FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH INVESTIGATING THE PROB AND CONTACTING HIM WITH WHAT WAS FOUND ON THE ACFT. MAINT CHANGED THE MODE CTL PANEL AND RENDERED THE AUTOPLT INOP AFTER THEY LANDED AT ORD AND THE ACFT CONTINUED ON THE NEXT FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.