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Attributes | |
ACN | 338580 |
Time | |
Date | 199606 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iah |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : iah |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 338580 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Location: hoagi intersection on cugar 5 at iah. First officer leg, descending into iah on cugar 5 arrival at iah. We were cleared to cross hoagi at 10000 ft with no mention of speed. After crossing hoagi at 10000 ft and a speed of 310 KTS, the controller asked what our speed was. We said 310 KTS, and he replied we should have been at 250 KTS at hoagi. We felt that he should have told us to cross hoagi at 10000 ft and 250 KTS. We slowed to 250 KTS and were cleared to 6000 ft and 085 degree heading at banty. We descended to 6000 ft doing the checklist and identing the ILS and briefly discussed our missed speed restr at hoagi. We then flew past banty by 2 mi and were just initiating our turn to 085 degree heading when approach called and asked if we were in the turn. The rest of the approach and landing were uneventful. In retrospect we were both tired after a long day and then we subconsciously fretted about the missed speed at hoagi and that was a large part of the reason that we failed to turn to 085 degrees over banty. The lesson to be learned is: don't dwell on a past miscue -- it might cause you to make another mistake.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A FOKKER 100 FAILED TO REDUCE THEIR AIRSPD PER ARR STAR FIX AND SUBSEQUENTLY FAILED TO TURN TO ASSIGNED HDG AT THE NEXT STAR FIX.
Narrative: LOCATION: HOAGI INTXN ON CUGAR 5 AT IAH. FO LEG, DSNDING INTO IAH ON CUGAR 5 ARR AT IAH. WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS HOAGI AT 10000 FT WITH NO MENTION OF SPD. AFTER XING HOAGI AT 10000 FT AND A SPD OF 310 KTS, THE CTLR ASKED WHAT OUR SPD WAS. WE SAID 310 KTS, AND HE REPLIED WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT 250 KTS AT HOAGI. WE FELT THAT HE SHOULD HAVE TOLD US TO CROSS HOAGI AT 10000 FT AND 250 KTS. WE SLOWED TO 250 KTS AND WERE CLRED TO 6000 FT AND 085 DEG HDG AT BANTY. WE DSNDED TO 6000 FT DOING THE CHKLIST AND IDENTING THE ILS AND BRIEFLY DISCUSSED OUR MISSED SPD RESTR AT HOAGI. WE THEN FLEW PAST BANTY BY 2 MI AND WERE JUST INITIATING OUR TURN TO 085 DEG HDG WHEN APCH CALLED AND ASKED IF WE WERE IN THE TURN. THE REST OF THE APCH AND LNDG WERE UNEVENTFUL. IN RETROSPECT WE WERE BOTH TIRED AFTER A LONG DAY AND THEN WE SUBCONSCIOUSLY FRETTED ABOUT THE MISSED SPD AT HOAGI AND THAT WAS A LARGE PART OF THE REASON THAT WE FAILED TO TURN TO 085 DEGS OVER BANTY. THE LESSON TO BE LEARNED IS: DON'T DWELL ON A PAST MISCUE -- IT MIGHT CAUSE YOU TO MAKE ANOTHER MISTAKE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.