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Attributes | |
ACN | 339029 |
Time | |
Date | 199606 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ffu airport : slc |
State Reference | UT |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc tower : tol |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Learjet 24 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 339029 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time type : 100 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft deviation off course, although all indications inside aircraft showed none. And later on, ATC wasn't sure either. Aircraft was picked up in tampa area to be ferried to salt lake city far part 91. Aircraft was a very early LR24 with a lot of unknown problems to the crew. Preflight took over 2 hours. A few things should have told me right away that aircraft was not very sound. Because of good WX for the whole trip (in daylight), I didn't make a big deal of a few minor problems with aircraft (example: weak radios, weak autoplt, etc). On the STAR into slc, radios got very bad, approach said we showed to be off course a bit, and later even they weren't sure if we were. Both navigation and communication were very weak. Lesson learned: this aircraft was old and kind of run down. I was given a copilot with only 100 hours in type, and have never seen this aircraft before. I learned that you have to be very inquisitive and selective and look over every detail, even things that you take for granted, before accepting a flight in an unfamiliar aircraft with a new copilot.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN LR24 CREW MAY HAVE BEEN OFF COURSE. ACFT EQUIP PROB 'WEAK' VHF, VOR, AND AUTOPLT.
Narrative: ACFT DEV OFF COURSE, ALTHOUGH ALL INDICATIONS INSIDE ACFT SHOWED NONE. AND LATER ON, ATC WASN'T SURE EITHER. ACFT WAS PICKED UP IN TAMPA AREA TO BE FERRIED TO SALT LAKE CITY FAR PART 91. ACFT WAS A VERY EARLY LR24 WITH A LOT OF UNKNOWN PROBS TO THE CREW. PREFLT TOOK OVER 2 HRS. A FEW THINGS SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME RIGHT AWAY THAT ACFT WAS NOT VERY SOUND. BECAUSE OF GOOD WX FOR THE WHOLE TRIP (IN DAYLIGHT), I DIDN'T MAKE A BIG DEAL OF A FEW MINOR PROBS WITH ACFT (EXAMPLE: WEAK RADIOS, WEAK AUTOPLT, ETC). ON THE STAR INTO SLC, RADIOS GOT VERY BAD, APCH SAID WE SHOWED TO BE OFF COURSE A BIT, AND LATER EVEN THEY WEREN'T SURE IF WE WERE. BOTH NAV AND COM WERE VERY WEAK. LESSON LEARNED: THIS ACFT WAS OLD AND KIND OF RUN DOWN. I WAS GIVEN A COPLT WITH ONLY 100 HRS IN TYPE, AND HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS ACFT BEFORE. I LEARNED THAT YOU HAVE TO BE VERY INQUISITIVE AND SELECTIVE AND LOOK OVER EVERY DETAIL, EVEN THINGS THAT YOU TAKE FOR GRANTED, BEFORE ACCEPTING A FLT IN AN UNFAMILIAR ACFT WITH A NEW COPLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.