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Attributes | |
ACN | 339567 |
Time | |
Date | 199606 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sna |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sna tracon : sdf |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time total : 300 flight time type : 290 |
ASRS Report | 339567 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Having requested flight following in our initial pre-taxi class C departure clearance, we took off VFR from sna on an assigned heading of 220 degrees. The tower handed us off to their radar advisory position (128.35), which then handed us off to socal approach (124.65) for further advisories. Shortly after checking in, we saw the other aircraft fly in front of us, from our right rear to left front, slightly higher, and much too close for comfort. He came into our field of vision and was past us before there was any time to take evasive action. A few seconds later, we were instructed to 'resume own navigation' to smo. After acknowledging the instructions, I remarked to the controller that 'the other aircraft had come mighty close to us.' my remark was not acknowledged. I assume that while on our 220 degree heading, the other aircraft must have departed sna on a similar heading, and was behind and overtaking us. We did not hear that he had us in sight, nor was he pointed out to us by any of the ATC facs we were communicating with.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 PLT ON FLT FOLLOWING HAS NMAC WITH ACFT APPARENTLY DEPARTING THE SAME ARPT. NO EVASIVE ACTION -- NO TIME.
Narrative: HAVING REQUESTED FLT FOLLOWING IN OUR INITIAL PRE-TAXI CLASS C DEP CLRNC, WE TOOK OFF VFR FROM SNA ON AN ASSIGNED HDG OF 220 DEGS. THE TWR HANDED US OFF TO THEIR RADAR ADVISORY POS (128.35), WHICH THEN HANDED US OFF TO SOCAL APCH (124.65) FOR FURTHER ADVISORIES. SHORTLY AFTER CHKING IN, WE SAW THE OTHER ACFT FLY IN FRONT OF US, FROM OUR R REAR TO L FRONT, SLIGHTLY HIGHER, AND MUCH TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT. HE CAME INTO OUR FIELD OF VISION AND WAS PAST US BEFORE THERE WAS ANY TIME TO TAKE EVASIVE ACTION. A FEW SECONDS LATER, WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO 'RESUME OWN NAV' TO SMO. AFTER ACKNOWLEDGING THE INSTRUCTIONS, I REMARKED TO THE CTLR THAT 'THE OTHER ACFT HAD COME MIGHTY CLOSE TO US.' MY REMARK WAS NOT ACKNOWLEDGED. I ASSUME THAT WHILE ON OUR 220 DEG HDG, THE OTHER ACFT MUST HAVE DEPARTED SNA ON A SIMILAR HDG, AND WAS BEHIND AND OVERTAKING US. WE DID NOT HEAR THAT HE HAD US IN SIGHT, NOR WAS HE POINTED OUT TO US BY ANY OF THE ATC FACS WE WERE COMMUNICATING WITH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.