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Attributes | |
ACN | 340100 |
Time | |
Date | 199607 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bos |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 340100 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
I feel the change in WX format and temperature scale in the united states is unnecessary and a detriment to safety. Admittedly, my window on the big picture is small but this change does not appear to have been in the interest of safety. It is as confusing and makes about as much sense as the renaming of the txwys at the dfw airport. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: this reporter said that the new ICAO standard WX reports are much more difficult to read and interpret than the reports used in domestic united states operations prior to this recent change. The reporter complained about the format in general and the fact that the winds are shown before the cloud cover and visibility. The reporter alleged that this was part of the general movement to have a number of institutions adopt international versus 'american' standards. The reporter claimed to have received little training on reading the new format WX reports, but admitted to having flown internationally and having to interpret this same format. He also said that he had not received a DOT approved booklet on the new format. The reporter did receive a response from his company concerning his complaint and he said that they have agreed that while the format is different, the format is the standard and the company does not think that safety was compromised.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR CAPT COMPLAINS THAT THE NEW ICAO WX FORMAT IS DIFFICULT TO INTERPRET. HE ALSO SAID THAT THE TEMP SCALE IS UNFAMILIAR TO HIM AND DIFFICULT TO RELATE TO FAHRENHEIT SCALE.
Narrative: I FEEL THE CHANGE IN WX FORMAT AND TEMP SCALE IN THE UNITED STATES IS UNNECESSARY AND A DETRIMENT TO SAFETY. ADMITTEDLY, MY WINDOW ON THE BIG PICTURE IS SMALL BUT THIS CHANGE DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY. IT IS AS CONFUSING AND MAKES ABOUT AS MUCH SENSE AS THE RENAMING OF THE TXWYS AT THE DFW ARPT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THIS RPTR SAID THAT THE NEW ICAO STANDARD WX RPTS ARE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO READ AND INTERPRET THAN THE RPTS USED IN DOMESTIC UNITED STATES OPS PRIOR TO THIS RECENT CHANGE. THE RPTR COMPLAINED ABOUT THE FORMAT IN GENERAL AND THE FACT THAT THE WINDS ARE SHOWN BEFORE THE CLOUD COVER AND VISIBILITY. THE RPTR ALLEGED THAT THIS WAS PART OF THE GENERAL MOVEMENT TO HAVE A NUMBER OF INSTITUTIONS ADOPT INTL VERSUS 'AMERICAN' STANDARDS. THE RPTR CLAIMED TO HAVE RECEIVED LITTLE TRAINING ON READING THE NEW FORMAT WX RPTS, BUT ADMITTED TO HAVING FLOWN INTERNATIONALLY AND HAVING TO INTERPRET THIS SAME FORMAT. HE ALSO SAID THAT HE HAD NOT RECEIVED A DOT APPROVED BOOKLET ON THE NEW FORMAT. THE RPTR DID RECEIVE A RESPONSE FROM HIS COMPANY CONCERNING HIS COMPLAINT AND HE SAID THAT THEY HAVE AGREED THAT WHILE THE FORMAT IS DIFFERENT, THE FORMAT IS THE STANDARD AND THE COMPANY DOES NOT THINK THAT SAFETY WAS COMPROMISED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.