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Attributes | |
ACN | 340425 |
Time | |
Date | 199607 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ogd |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 19100 msl bound upper : 19700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zlc tracon : slc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Merlin III |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar pilot : instrument |
Experience | controller radar : 10 flight time total : 300 |
ASRS Report | 340425 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 27000 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
During the standard morning arrival 'push' into slc, sector 7 can become almost unmanageable. The mix of turboprop aircraft and jet aircraft that have to be spaced with one another for the arrival gate is at times unbearable. Today this is what happened. 2 aircraft were issued vectors for spacing a B727 and turned back to the arrival fix (cartr intersection) and told to cross cartr at 16000 ft. The B727 was 8 mi from cartr (northwest) at FL240. An SW3 was 10 mi east of cartr on a vector to go north of the B727 at FL200 with a clearance to 16000 ft. The B727 was handed off to slc approach and communication transfer accomplished. Slc approach noting that the B727 and SW3 are getting close, stopped B727's descent at FL200. He went through FL200 to FL197, the SW3 is at FL191 and aircraft are within 5 mi of each other. Radar controller turned the SW3 20 degrees right for traffic, no help. At the time of all of this there are about 15 aircraft in sector, all landing slc, and all between ogd 302 degree radial and ogd 0290 degree radial within 50 mi of ogd. The arrival bank compressed on us. Perhaps earlier vectors for spacing at 80 mi out would have helped. Tmu (flow control) was no help at all, they should have mandated outlying sectors to feed us 20 mi in-trail. (We blend 4 streams of traffic into 2 streams from 3 separate sectors.) also ZLC needs to stop spacing turboprops with jets, at the altitude stratums we work these aircraft. They are not speed compatible (turbos 200-240 KTS/jets 310-370 KTS).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARTCC RADAR CTLR MADE A HDOF TO SLC APCH CTLR EARLY AND WITHOUT ENSURING THAT ADEQUATE SEPARATION EXISTED OR WOULD EXIST AT A FIX ON THE ARR THAT IS USED BY BOTH JET AND TURBOPROP ACFT. SLC APCH CTLR ATTEMPTED TO KEEP LEGAL SEPARATION BTWN A B727 AND AN SW3, BUT WAS UNABLE, DUE TO LATE STOP OF DSCNT CLRNC FOR THE B727.
Narrative: DURING THE STANDARD MORNING ARR 'PUSH' INTO SLC, SECTOR 7 CAN BECOME ALMOST UNMANAGEABLE. THE MIX OF TURBOPROP ACFT AND JET ACFT THAT HAVE TO BE SPACED WITH ONE ANOTHER FOR THE ARR GATE IS AT TIMES UNBEARABLE. TODAY THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. 2 ACFT WERE ISSUED VECTORS FOR SPACING A B727 AND TURNED BACK TO THE ARR FIX (CARTR INTXN) AND TOLD TO CROSS CARTR AT 16000 FT. THE B727 WAS 8 MI FROM CARTR (NW) AT FL240. AN SW3 WAS 10 MI E OF CARTR ON A VECTOR TO GO N OF THE B727 AT FL200 WITH A CLRNC TO 16000 FT. THE B727 WAS HANDED OFF TO SLC APCH AND COM TRANSFER ACCOMPLISHED. SLC APCH NOTING THAT THE B727 AND SW3 ARE GETTING CLOSE, STOPPED B727'S DSCNT AT FL200. HE WENT THROUGH FL200 TO FL197, THE SW3 IS AT FL191 AND ACFT ARE WITHIN 5 MI OF EACH OTHER. RADAR CTLR TURNED THE SW3 20 DEGS R FOR TFC, NO HELP. AT THE TIME OF ALL OF THIS THERE ARE ABOUT 15 ACFT IN SECTOR, ALL LNDG SLC, AND ALL BTWN OGD 302 DEG RADIAL AND OGD 0290 DEG RADIAL WITHIN 50 MI OF OGD. THE ARR BANK COMPRESSED ON US. PERHAPS EARLIER VECTORS FOR SPACING AT 80 MI OUT WOULD HAVE HELPED. TMU (FLOW CTL) WAS NO HELP AT ALL, THEY SHOULD HAVE MANDATED OUTLYING SECTORS TO FEED US 20 MI IN-TRAIL. (WE BLEND 4 STREAMS OF TFC INTO 2 STREAMS FROM 3 SEPARATE SECTORS.) ALSO ZLC NEEDS TO STOP SPACING TURBOPROPS WITH JETS, AT THE ALT STRATUMS WE WORK THESE ACFT. THEY ARE NOT SPD COMPATIBLE (TURBOS 200-240 KTS/JETS 310-370 KTS).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.