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Attributes | |
ACN | 344403 |
Time | |
Date | 199608 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 045 |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 39 flight time total : 1008 flight time type : 36 |
ASRS Report | 344403 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On rollout from a 3 point landing and about 10-15 mph the aircraft started to make an arc to the right. As I depressed the left rudder/brake the arc tightened to the right. To avoid hitting the culvert wall head on and possibly tipping over into the drainage ditch, I stepped very hard on the right brake to ground loop and stop. All went well until the left wing struck the culvert wall after about a 190 degree turn. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states he does believe the culvert and also a ditch at the approach end of runway 20 are too close to the runway and could easily be moved further away to avoid problems if a landing goes bad. But the bottom line is that his aircraft was probably the problem. He believes that the left wheel is toed in just a bit. He discussed this with members of the ryan group he belongs to and no one really seemed to think it a problem. 2 other persons who flew his aircraft mentioned a pull on landing. Reporter has previously used a ground loop to solve a landing problem and feels it is usually a good procedure, but this time the culvert was in the way and it did not work out so well. In talking to the airport personnel he has learned that 7 aircraft have gone into the culvert over many yrs' time. The aircraft is currently being torn down and rebuilt.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT FLYING A RYAN ST3KR HAS A LOSS OF CTL ON LNDG ROLL AND HEADS TOWARD CULVERT. TO AVOID HITTING THE CULVERT HEAD ON HE INTENTIONALLY GND LOOPS THE ACFT. L WING HITS CULVERT.
Narrative: ON ROLLOUT FROM A 3 POINT LNDG AND ABOUT 10-15 MPH THE ACFT STARTED TO MAKE AN ARC TO THE R. AS I DEPRESSED THE L RUDDER/BRAKE THE ARC TIGHTENED TO THE R. TO AVOID HITTING THE CULVERT WALL HEAD ON AND POSSIBLY TIPPING OVER INTO THE DRAINAGE DITCH, I STEPPED VERY HARD ON THE R BRAKE TO GND LOOP AND STOP. ALL WENT WELL UNTIL THE L WING STRUCK THE CULVERT WALL AFTER ABOUT A 190 DEG TURN. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES HE DOES BELIEVE THE CULVERT AND ALSO A DITCH AT THE APCH END OF RWY 20 ARE TOO CLOSE TO THE RWY AND COULD EASILY BE MOVED FURTHER AWAY TO AVOID PROBS IF A LNDG GOES BAD. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT HIS ACFT WAS PROBABLY THE PROB. HE BELIEVES THAT THE L WHEEL IS TOED IN JUST A BIT. HE DISCUSSED THIS WITH MEMBERS OF THE RYAN GROUP HE BELONGS TO AND NO ONE REALLY SEEMED TO THINK IT A PROB. 2 OTHER PERSONS WHO FLEW HIS ACFT MENTIONED A PULL ON LNDG. RPTR HAS PREVIOUSLY USED A GND LOOP TO SOLVE A LNDG PROB AND FEELS IT IS USUALLY A GOOD PROC, BUT THIS TIME THE CULVERT WAS IN THE WAY AND IT DID NOT WORK OUT SO WELL. IN TALKING TO THE ARPT PERSONNEL HE HAS LEARNED THAT 7 ACFT HAVE GONE INTO THE CULVERT OVER MANY YRS' TIME. THE ACFT IS CURRENTLY BEING TORN DOWN AND REBUILT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.