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Attributes | |
ACN | 348319 |
Time | |
Date | 199609 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11700 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 348319 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 348320 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
ATC facility: socal approach. Location: lax 069/42. First officer flying arrival into lax. Speed changed by ATC from 300 KTS to 250 KTS and 210 KTS. 14000 ft restr at civet intersection complied with on autoplt, descended to 12000 ft at 40 DME. At 42 DME we heard the altitude warning and I looked at center altimeter and saw 11700 ft. I immediately added power and leveled at 12000 ft. ATC was calling at same time saying flight xy you must cross 40 DME at 12000 ft. I said roger. The autoplt was not on as I climbed back up to 12000 ft. I turned it back on, armed 10000 ft for the 30 DME restr, and was starting that descent when ATC said flight xy you can now start down to 10000 ft. I again said roger. The captain was talking to lax ramp concerning international connections as we leveled at 12000 ft at 40 DME. I flew the remainder to the ILS to lax. We debriefed what had happened and decided to fill out a form even though ATC didn't say anything about the incident. Lessons learned involve AM45 body time wakeup -- 8 hour flying day, 1 1/2 hour situation at dfw for ATC flow into lax. I don't remember disconnecting autoplt on the arrival. It was off as we descended through 12000 ft. So with 1 pilot out of the loop and tired, doublechk everything, especially autoplt. Supplemental information from acn 348320: altitude capture was annunciated but the aircraft on autoplt flew through 12000 ft. He disconnected the autoplt and the descent was stopped at 11700 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT OVERSHOT IN DSCNT ALT XING RESTR NOT MET. FO RPTR CITES ACFT EQUIP PROB WITH AUTOPLT DISCONNECTING AND NOT AUTOCAPTURING THE ALT SET IN FLT MODE ANNUNCIATOR.
Narrative: ATC FACILITY: SOCAL APCH. LOCATION: LAX 069/42. FO FLYING ARR INTO LAX. SPD CHANGED BY ATC FROM 300 KTS TO 250 KTS AND 210 KTS. 14000 FT RESTR AT CIVET INTXN COMPLIED WITH ON AUTOPLT, DSNDED TO 12000 FT AT 40 DME. AT 42 DME WE HEARD THE ALT WARNING AND I LOOKED AT CTR ALTIMETER AND SAW 11700 FT. I IMMEDIATELY ADDED PWR AND LEVELED AT 12000 FT. ATC WAS CALLING AT SAME TIME SAYING FLT XY YOU MUST CROSS 40 DME AT 12000 FT. I SAID ROGER. THE AUTOPLT WAS NOT ON AS I CLBED BACK UP TO 12000 FT. I TURNED IT BACK ON, ARMED 10000 FT FOR THE 30 DME RESTR, AND WAS STARTING THAT DSCNT WHEN ATC SAID FLT XY YOU CAN NOW START DOWN TO 10000 FT. I AGAIN SAID ROGER. THE CAPT WAS TALKING TO LAX RAMP CONCERNING INTL CONNECTIONS AS WE LEVELED AT 12000 FT AT 40 DME. I FLEW THE REMAINDER TO THE ILS TO LAX. WE DEBRIEFED WHAT HAD HAPPENED AND DECIDED TO FILL OUT A FORM EVEN THOUGH ATC DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE INCIDENT. LESSONS LEARNED INVOLVE AM45 BODY TIME WAKEUP -- 8 HR FLYING DAY, 1 1/2 HR SIT AT DFW FOR ATC FLOW INTO LAX. I DON'T REMEMBER DISCONNECTING AUTOPLT ON THE ARR. IT WAS OFF AS WE DSNDED THROUGH 12000 FT. SO WITH 1 PLT OUT OF THE LOOP AND TIRED, DOUBLECHK EVERYTHING, ESPECIALLY AUTOPLT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 348320: ALT CAPTURE WAS ANNUNCIATED BUT THE ACFT ON AUTOPLT FLEW THROUGH 12000 FT. HE DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT AND THE DSCNT WAS STOPPED AT 11700 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.