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Instructor report regarding IFR flight with pilot under the hood. Reporter in communication with FSS to file flight plan then sights traffic passing below.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 349775 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199610 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : orl |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : orl |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 1100 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 349775 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was acting as CFI on an instrument cross country training flight. We were setting up for an approach into orl VOR DME runway 7. Per my instructions, the student (PF) requested our IFR clearance from orl to fxe. The controller (approach) told us that nothing was on file. At that point we canceled IFR, descended out of class B airspace, and changed frequencys to air file with FSS. This whole time my student kept his hood on, flying the aircraft solely by reference to instruments. I, on the other hand, was consumed with getting a flight plan on file, and didn't notice the aircraft approaching us from our 9 O'clock position. It was not until he passed below us that I saw him. In retrospect, I should have asked my student to remove his hood and help me clear the airspace. I was not able to provide adequate traffic separation while looking inside the aircraft. We were lucky.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR RPT REGARDING IFR FLT WITH PLT UNDER THE HOOD. RPTR IN COM WITH FSS TO FILE FLT PLAN THEN SIGHTS TFC PASSING BELOW.
Narrative: I WAS ACTING AS CFI ON AN INST XCOUNTRY TRAINING FLT. WE WERE SETTING UP FOR AN APCH INTO ORL VOR DME RWY 7. PER MY INSTRUCTIONS, THE STUDENT (PF) REQUESTED OUR IFR CLRNC FROM ORL TO FXE. THE CTLR (APCH) TOLD US THAT NOTHING WAS ON FILE. AT THAT POINT WE CANCELED IFR, DSNDED OUT OF CLASS B AIRSPACE, AND CHANGED FREQS TO AIR FILE WITH FSS. THIS WHOLE TIME MY STUDENT KEPT HIS HOOD ON, FLYING THE ACFT SOLELY BY REF TO INSTS. I, ON THE OTHER HAND, WAS CONSUMED WITH GETTING A FLT PLAN ON FILE, AND DIDN'T NOTICE THE ACFT APCHING US FROM OUR 9 O'CLOCK POS. IT WAS NOT UNTIL HE PASSED BELOW US THAT I SAW HIM. IN RETROSPECT, I SHOULD HAVE ASKED MY STUDENT TO REMOVE HIS HOOD AND HELP ME CLR THE AIRSPACE. I WAS NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE TFC SEPARATION WHILE LOOKING INSIDE THE ACFT. WE WERE LUCKY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.