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Attributes | |
ACN | 349918 |
Time | |
Date | 199609 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 1o3 |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna 195 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 700 flight time type : 170 |
ASRS Report | 349918 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : observer other personnel other |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 20000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The C195 was being flown in the left seat by me, the right seat occupied by the owner, a 20000+ hour airline pilot. I have approximately 200 hours tail dragger time with 150 hours in the last 12 months. I have approximately 35 hours of this specific C195 flying time. The airplane was flown strictly for a few touch-and-goes at lodi. The first pattern flown was by the owner from the right seat. Pattern uneventful to full stop. I flew the second pattern from the left seat. On landing, all was uneventful. At near taxi speed, end of landing, it appears to have started a partial right wheel skid starting a right turn. Left rudder progressively utilized by both pilots with eventual left brake. The C195 confirmed its right track into the dirt shoulder. Just before stop, the plane rolled through a previous deep tire track (shallow ditch), struck propeller to ground only 2 times and basically nosed down and fell onto its back. Damage mainly to tail post, no significant cabin compartment damage. No structures, lights, vehicles, or planes other than the C195 involved. Both pilots completely uninjured. Plane was righted and brought to hangar. I was probably considered PIC and did not report in a timely manner. I left california early the next day for 2 and one half weeks in southeast alaska to act as a local emergency room physician. I probably mistakenly expected the owner pilot to determine the need for report. I should have insured that correct actions were taken. I may still have been correct in my actions, but I am not yet sure. 3 different opinions were my trigger that no one yet really knows what the correct actions should have been. Damage all appears to be simple unbolt and replace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C195 PLT, SITTING IN THE L SEAT WITH THE OWNER IN THE R SEAT, LET THE ACFT LEAVE THE SIDE OF THE RWY AND NOSE OVER. THE RPTR THOUGHT THAT THE OWNER WOULD RPT THIS, BUT THE INCIDENT WAS NOT RPTED. POSSIBLE ERROR ADMITTED. ACFT DAMAGE MAINLY TO TAIL POST, PROP.
Narrative: THE C195 WAS BEING FLOWN IN THE L SEAT BY ME, THE R SEAT OCCUPIED BY THE OWNER, A 20000+ HR AIRLINE PLT. I HAVE APPROX 200 HRS TAIL DRAGGER TIME WITH 150 HRS IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS. I HAVE APPROX 35 HRS OF THIS SPECIFIC C195 FLYING TIME. THE AIRPLANE WAS FLOWN STRICTLY FOR A FEW TOUCH-AND-GOES AT LODI. THE FIRST PATTERN FLOWN WAS BY THE OWNER FROM THE R SEAT. PATTERN UNEVENTFUL TO FULL STOP. I FLEW THE SECOND PATTERN FROM THE L SEAT. ON LNDG, ALL WAS UNEVENTFUL. AT NEAR TAXI SPD, END OF LNDG, IT APPEARS TO HAVE STARTED A PARTIAL R WHEEL SKID STARTING A R TURN. L RUDDER PROGRESSIVELY UTILIZED BY BOTH PLTS WITH EVENTUAL L BRAKE. THE C195 CONFIRMED ITS R TRACK INTO THE DIRT SHOULDER. JUST BEFORE STOP, THE PLANE ROLLED THROUGH A PREVIOUS DEEP TIRE TRACK (SHALLOW DITCH), STRUCK PROP TO GND ONLY 2 TIMES AND BASICALLY NOSED DOWN AND FELL ONTO ITS BACK. DAMAGE MAINLY TO TAIL POST, NO SIGNIFICANT CABIN COMPARTMENT DAMAGE. NO STRUCTURES, LIGHTS, VEHICLES, OR PLANES OTHER THAN THE C195 INVOLVED. BOTH PLTS COMPLETELY UNINJURED. PLANE WAS RIGHTED AND BROUGHT TO HANGAR. I WAS PROBABLY CONSIDERED PIC AND DID NOT RPT IN A TIMELY MANNER. I LEFT CALIFORNIA EARLY THE NEXT DAY FOR 2 AND ONE HALF WKS IN SE ALASKA TO ACT AS A LCL EMER ROOM PHYSICIAN. I PROBABLY MISTAKENLY EXPECTED THE OWNER PLT TO DETERMINE THE NEED FOR RPT. I SHOULD HAVE INSURED THAT CORRECT ACTIONS WERE TAKEN. I MAY STILL HAVE BEEN CORRECT IN MY ACTIONS, BUT I AM NOT YET SURE. 3 DIFFERENT OPINIONS WERE MY TRIGGER THAT NO ONE YET REALLY KNOWS WHAT THE CORRECT ACTIONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN. DAMAGE ALL APPEARS TO BE SIMPLE UNBOLT AND REPLACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.