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Attributes | |
ACN | 351070 |
Time | |
Date | 199610 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : har |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 25000 msl bound upper : 25900 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 27000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 351070 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At FL370 cleared direct to har VOR. Normally, ZOB clears aircraft to cross cofax intersection at FL250. In anticipation I (PNF) built a fix abeam cofax (40 mi west of har VOR). However, ZOB cleared us to cross 45 mi west of har at FL250. Therefore, I reprogrammed the FMC. At the same time, first officer started a 1000 FPM rate of descent to ensure making the restr. When the FMC computed the descent, it showed us to be below the profile, so the first officer selected VNAV to ensure we would intercept the profile and make the crossing altitude. I verified the autoplt was in LNAV and VNAV. I then began to select approach plates for the arrival to phl because the first officer said he was going to get the ATIS. We both noticed the FMC showed us 3300 ft high on the profile and the vertical-speed light was on and we were only descending at 1000 FPM. The first officer immediately disconnected the autoplt and expedited our descent using speed brakes and increased airspeed. Due to frequency congestion, I was unable to advise ATC we were high, but it appeared we could just make the restr, anyway. We crossed the 45 DME approximately 900 ft high and were level at FL250 within 1 mi of the 45 DME fix. Our TCASII showed no traffic within 10 NM either at our altitude, or above or below us. Upon reflection, as the PNF, I should have gotten the ATIS which would then allowed the PF to more closely monitor the progress of the flight and most likely would have noticed the profile deviation sooner.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 ACFT DSNDING TO A XING RESTR WITH FMC PROGRAMMED. VNAV SELECTED TO GET ON DSCNT PROFILE WHEN CAPT ENTERS DEST RWY AND FO OBTAINING ATIS. DISTR AND MODE CHANGE CAUSE ACFT TO BE 900 FT HIGH AT RESTR.
Narrative: AT FL370 CLRED DIRECT TO HAR VOR. NORMALLY, ZOB CLRS ACFT TO CROSS COFAX INTXN AT FL250. IN ANTICIPATION I (PNF) BUILT A FIX ABEAM COFAX (40 MI W OF HAR VOR). HOWEVER, ZOB CLRED US TO CROSS 45 MI W OF HAR AT FL250. THEREFORE, I REPROGRAMMED THE FMC. AT THE SAME TIME, FO STARTED A 1000 FPM RATE OF DSCNT TO ENSURE MAKING THE RESTR. WHEN THE FMC COMPUTED THE DSCNT, IT SHOWED US TO BE BELOW THE PROFILE, SO THE FO SELECTED VNAV TO ENSURE WE WOULD INTERCEPT THE PROFILE AND MAKE THE XING ALT. I VERIFIED THE AUTOPLT WAS IN LNAV AND VNAV. I THEN BEGAN TO SELECT APCH PLATES FOR THE ARR TO PHL BECAUSE THE FO SAID HE WAS GOING TO GET THE ATIS. WE BOTH NOTICED THE FMC SHOWED US 3300 FT HIGH ON THE PROFILE AND THE VERT-SPD LIGHT WAS ON AND WE WERE ONLY DSNDING AT 1000 FPM. THE FO IMMEDIATELY DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT AND EXPEDITED OUR DSCNT USING SPD BRAKES AND INCREASED AIRSPD. DUE TO FREQ CONGESTION, I WAS UNABLE TO ADVISE ATC WE WERE HIGH, BUT IT APPEARED WE COULD JUST MAKE THE RESTR, ANYWAY. WE CROSSED THE 45 DME APPROX 900 FT HIGH AND WERE LEVEL AT FL250 WITHIN 1 MI OF THE 45 DME FIX. OUR TCASII SHOWED NO TFC WITHIN 10 NM EITHER AT OUR ALT, OR ABOVE OR BELOW US. UPON REFLECTION, AS THE PNF, I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE ATIS WHICH WOULD THEN ALLOWED THE PF TO MORE CLOSELY MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THE FLT AND MOST LIKELY WOULD HAVE NOTICED THE PROFILE DEV SOONER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.