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Attributes | |
ACN | 351218 |
Time | |
Date | 199610 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : iad |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 15200 msl bound upper : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 351218 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Altitude 16000 ft. ZNY asked us to change to his other frequency. As I was about to re-check in on this, a deafening noise started in the cockpit. The captain, who was flying, thought it a decompression situation. I looked for indications of this -- there were none. Communication was almost ineffective due to the noise. He told me he was descending. We had no idea as to what was causing the noise. I tried to tell the controller that we were initiating a descent but he was busy. When I did get through we were passing 15200 ft for 10000 ft. There was no conflict. Myself and the captain had concluded by then that all the system were operating normally but that we would still like 10000 ft as a precaution. The controller cleared us to 10000 ft and was, altogether, very helpful. The rest of the trip was uneventful except for the deafening noise which continued until just before we landed. The cause of the noise was part of the cockpit overhead hatch had broken away. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: this reporter states that he first checked for caution and advisory system messages and there were none. The cabin altitude was not wavering. He tried to persuade the captain to wait for a clearance since there did not appear to be a critical problem associated with the noise. During a later review with the controller via telephone, the controller indicated that he had no problem with the descent. The D328 hatch is a plug type, so it was not possible to lift the hatch physically from the aircraft during pressurized flight. The hatch was also secured by the interior locking pins. Reporter will declare an emergency next time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A D328 FO RPTS A DEAFENING NOISE IN THE COCKPIT THAT LED THE FLC TO DSND WITHOUT A CLRNC FROM CTR. AFTER LNDG, THE CREW DISCOVERED THAT THE NOISE WAS A RESULT OF THE FAILURE OF THE LATCH ON THE OVERHEAD HATCH.
Narrative: ALT 16000 FT. ZNY ASKED US TO CHANGE TO HIS OTHER FREQ. AS I WAS ABOUT TO RE-CHK IN ON THIS, A DEAFENING NOISE STARTED IN THE COCKPIT. THE CAPT, WHO WAS FLYING, THOUGHT IT A DECOMPRESSION SIT. I LOOKED FOR INDICATIONS OF THIS -- THERE WERE NONE. COM WAS ALMOST INEFFECTIVE DUE TO THE NOISE. HE TOLD ME HE WAS DSNDING. WE HAD NO IDEA AS TO WHAT WAS CAUSING THE NOISE. I TRIED TO TELL THE CTLR THAT WE WERE INITIATING A DSCNT BUT HE WAS BUSY. WHEN I DID GET THROUGH WE WERE PASSING 15200 FT FOR 10000 FT. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT. MYSELF AND THE CAPT HAD CONCLUDED BY THEN THAT ALL THE SYS WERE OPERATING NORMALLY BUT THAT WE WOULD STILL LIKE 10000 FT AS A PRECAUTION. THE CTLR CLRED US TO 10000 FT AND WAS, ALTOGETHER, VERY HELPFUL. THE REST OF THE TRIP WAS UNEVENTFUL EXCEPT FOR THE DEAFENING NOISE WHICH CONTINUED UNTIL JUST BEFORE WE LANDED. THE CAUSE OF THE NOISE WAS PART OF THE COCKPIT OVERHEAD HATCH HAD BROKEN AWAY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THIS RPTR STATES THAT HE FIRST CHKED FOR CAUTION AND ADVISORY SYS MESSAGES AND THERE WERE NONE. THE CABIN ALT WAS NOT WAVERING. HE TRIED TO PERSUADE THE CAPT TO WAIT FOR A CLRNC SINCE THERE DID NOT APPEAR TO BE A CRITICAL PROB ASSOCIATED WITH THE NOISE. DURING A LATER REVIEW WITH THE CTLR VIA TELEPHONE, THE CTLR INDICATED THAT HE HAD NO PROB WITH THE DSCNT. THE D328 HATCH IS A PLUG TYPE, SO IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO LIFT THE HATCH PHYSICALLY FROM THE ACFT DURING PRESSURIZED FLT. THE HATCH WAS ALSO SECURED BY THE INTERIOR LOCKING PINS. RPTR WILL DECLARE AN EMER NEXT TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.