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Attributes | |
ACN | 352020 |
Time | |
Date | 199611 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ftz |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 32 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3700 flight time type : 114 |
ASRS Report | 352020 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 352017 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to cross 15 mi southwest of foristell VOR at 8000 ft. There was some confusion during the readback, the controller thought I said 115 mi southwest. Because of this confusion, I didn't put 8000 ft into the altitude alert. This may be one of the factors, why the captain didn't start his descent to cross the fix at 8000 ft. As we were approaching 15 mi from the VOR, I was talking to company calling in-range and didn't think about having to descend. At about 11 mi from the VOR, the controller told us to descend to 8000 ft and we realized we forgot the crossing restr. We then descended to 8000 ft without further incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: JETSTREAM 32 CRUISING AT 9000 FT WAS GIVEN AN ALT XING RESTR OF 8000 FT BUT FORGOT TO DSND.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS 15 MI SW OF FORISTELL VOR AT 8000 FT. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION DURING THE READBACK, THE CTLR THOUGHT I SAID 115 MI SW. BECAUSE OF THIS CONFUSION, I DIDN'T PUT 8000 FT INTO THE ALT ALERT. THIS MAY BE ONE OF THE FACTORS, WHY THE CAPT DIDN'T START HIS DSCNT TO CROSS THE FIX AT 8000 FT. AS WE WERE APCHING 15 MI FROM THE VOR, I WAS TALKING TO COMPANY CALLING IN-RANGE AND DIDN'T THINK ABOUT HAVING TO DSND. AT ABOUT 11 MI FROM THE VOR, THE CTLR TOLD US TO DSND TO 8000 FT AND WE REALIZED WE FORGOT THE XING RESTR. WE THEN DSNDED TO 8000 FT WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.