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Attributes | |
ACN | 352119 |
Time | |
Date | 199611 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bkw |
State Reference | WV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid tracon : crw |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Mooney Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 13 flight time total : 1027 flight time type : 340 |
ASRS Report | 352119 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 750 flight time type : 25 |
ASRS Report | 352117 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
I received a briefing for a flight nov sat 1996 from oak to 3n8 in a mooney. From the briefing, I determined the flight could be made in that there were layers and at 7000 ft we would be clear of ice and turbulence. I filed 7000 ft and was VFR between layers until I contacted charleston approach. Charleston changed our heading 10 degrees east and direct psk, thus taking us off the victor airway. They then descended us to 6000 ft, which was ok for approximately 10-15 mins, at which time we entered clouds and began to pick up rime ice. I immediately asked for higher and was told to stand by. I waited for 2-3 mins and we began to encounter turbulence and updrafts along with additional ice. I asked again for higher and was denied. After 2-3 mins more, we now had approximately one half inch rime ice, updrafts, and were losing communications due to ice. I asked again for higher, denied. We were asked for our altitude and other pilot replied 6300 ft or 6500 ft. Instructed me 'must' be at 6000 ft. Asked again for higher and told 'must' stay at 6000 ft. We were handed off to ZID, then to roa who gave us 7000 ft. We then began to lose the ice. Roa changed our clearance and handed us off to greensboro. They asked why we were there and we replied due to a change given to us by roa. The rest of the flight was as planned. Roa also instructed us to contact indianapolis quality assurance -- we did on arrival. We were in icing conditions for approximately 10-15 mins with no help from ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A MOONEY PLT FLEW IN ICING CONDITIONS. ATC DID NOT PROVIDE ANY HELP. THE RPTRS DID NOT DECLARE AN EMER.
Narrative: I RECEIVED A BRIEFING FOR A FLT NOV SAT 1996 FROM OAK TO 3N8 IN A MOONEY. FROM THE BRIEFING, I DETERMINED THE FLT COULD BE MADE IN THAT THERE WERE LAYERS AND AT 7000 FT WE WOULD BE CLR OF ICE AND TURB. I FILED 7000 FT AND WAS VFR BTWN LAYERS UNTIL I CONTACTED CHARLESTON APCH. CHARLESTON CHANGED OUR HDG 10 DEGS E AND DIRECT PSK, THUS TAKING US OFF THE VICTOR AIRWAY. THEY THEN DSNDED US TO 6000 FT, WHICH WAS OK FOR APPROX 10-15 MINS, AT WHICH TIME WE ENTERED CLOUDS AND BEGAN TO PICK UP RIME ICE. I IMMEDIATELY ASKED FOR HIGHER AND WAS TOLD TO STAND BY. I WAITED FOR 2-3 MINS AND WE BEGAN TO ENCOUNTER TURB AND UPDRAFTS ALONG WITH ADDITIONAL ICE. I ASKED AGAIN FOR HIGHER AND WAS DENIED. AFTER 2-3 MINS MORE, WE NOW HAD APPROX ONE HALF INCH RIME ICE, UPDRAFTS, AND WERE LOSING COMS DUE TO ICE. I ASKED AGAIN FOR HIGHER, DENIED. WE WERE ASKED FOR OUR ALT AND OTHER PLT REPLIED 6300 FT OR 6500 FT. INSTRUCTED ME 'MUST' BE AT 6000 FT. ASKED AGAIN FOR HIGHER AND TOLD 'MUST' STAY AT 6000 FT. WE WERE HANDED OFF TO ZID, THEN TO ROA WHO GAVE US 7000 FT. WE THEN BEGAN TO LOSE THE ICE. ROA CHANGED OUR CLRNC AND HANDED US OFF TO GREENSBORO. THEY ASKED WHY WE WERE THERE AND WE REPLIED DUE TO A CHANGE GIVEN TO US BY ROA. THE REST OF THE FLT WAS AS PLANNED. ROA ALSO INSTRUCTED US TO CONTACT INDIANAPOLIS QUALITY ASSURANCE -- WE DID ON ARR. WE WERE IN ICING CONDITIONS FOR APPROX 10-15 MINS WITH NO HELP FROM ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.