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Attributes | |
ACN | 353270 |
Time | |
Date | 199611 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 50 agl bound upper : 111 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sfo |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-500 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 353270 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The RVR at sfo had been hanging around 700 ft. It was, however, varying. We held at pye for approximately 1/2 hour. It then became time to divert to sjc. While diverting to sjc, the captain said that if the RVR comes up at sfo, we would make an approach. The RVR came up to 1000 ft and then 1200 ft. We were limited to CAT ii because the captain was still on 'high minimums.' the airplane was equipped for CAT III and I am certified for CAT III, while acting as sic. We were immediately vectored for and cleared for the ILS runway 28R at sfo. We contacted sfo in the vicinity of brijj. At 7.1 DME the RVR was reported at 700 ft. We were 0.3 mi inside of brijj. We continued the approach. At approximately 1500 ft the RVR was again reported at 700 ft. I called 'approaching minimums' and then 'minimums.' the captain did nothing. Minimums were 111 ft radar altitude. As we approached 70 ft radar altitude, I began calling 'below minimums.' the captain interrupted with 'approach lights.' I looked up at approximately 50 ft radar altitude and only saw 1 approach light. In the event the captain would not go around, I monitored the instruments for a successful automatic-land. I thought this would be the safest course of action (as opposed to pressing for a go around). To my best estimate the RVR was at best 700 ft. The captain descended 40 ft below decision ht before making any comment. I commented on this later the captain said he had the lights and did not think he could judge the RVR fast enough. I should have called for a go around earlier.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-500 SUPER PLT DECIDED TO DSND BELOW DECISION HT TO A LNDG EVEN THOUGH HE WAS ON HIGH MINIMUMS.
Narrative: THE RVR AT SFO HAD BEEN HANGING AROUND 700 FT. IT WAS, HOWEVER, VARYING. WE HELD AT PYE FOR APPROX 1/2 HR. IT THEN BECAME TIME TO DIVERT TO SJC. WHILE DIVERTING TO SJC, THE CAPT SAID THAT IF THE RVR COMES UP AT SFO, WE WOULD MAKE AN APCH. THE RVR CAME UP TO 1000 FT AND THEN 1200 FT. WE WERE LIMITED TO CAT II BECAUSE THE CAPT WAS STILL ON 'HIGH MINIMUMS.' THE AIRPLANE WAS EQUIPPED FOR CAT III AND I AM CERTIFIED FOR CAT III, WHILE ACTING AS SIC. WE WERE IMMEDIATELY VECTORED FOR AND CLRED FOR THE ILS RWY 28R AT SFO. WE CONTACTED SFO IN THE VICINITY OF BRIJJ. AT 7.1 DME THE RVR WAS RPTED AT 700 FT. WE WERE 0.3 MI INSIDE OF BRIJJ. WE CONTINUED THE APCH. AT APPROX 1500 FT THE RVR WAS AGAIN RPTED AT 700 FT. I CALLED 'APCHING MINIMUMS' AND THEN 'MINIMUMS.' THE CAPT DID NOTHING. MINIMUMS WERE 111 FT RADAR ALT. AS WE APCHED 70 FT RADAR ALT, I BEGAN CALLING 'BELOW MINIMUMS.' THE CAPT INTERRUPTED WITH 'APCH LIGHTS.' I LOOKED UP AT APPROX 50 FT RADAR ALT AND ONLY SAW 1 APCH LIGHT. IN THE EVENT THE CAPT WOULD NOT GAR, I MONITORED THE INSTS FOR A SUCCESSFUL AUTO-LAND. I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE THE SAFEST COURSE OF ACTION (AS OPPOSED TO PRESSING FOR A GAR). TO MY BEST ESTIMATE THE RVR WAS AT BEST 700 FT. THE CAPT DSNDED 40 FT BELOW DECISION HT BEFORE MAKING ANY COMMENT. I COMMENTED ON THIS LATER THE CAPT SAID HE HAD THE LIGHTS AND DID NOT THINK HE COULD JUDGE THE RVR FAST ENOUGH. I SHOULD HAVE CALLED FOR A GAR EARLIER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.