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Attributes | |
ACN | 353400 |
Time | |
Date | 199611 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bwi |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bwi |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 4500 |
ASRS Report | 353400 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On climb out from bwi (runway 28) departure gave us 'turn to heading 120 degrees, climb to 15800 ft, maintain 250 KTS -- the 250 KTS is at center request.' we read clearance back. Just out of 5000 ft departure said 'maintain 6000 ft.' we overshot 6000 ft by +/- 300 ft. At the same time we were told to maintain 9000 ft. I told departure we had been given 15000 ft as a clearance altitude. Departure said 'I missed your readback.' I don't know if we set off any lights but there was miscom on the clearance altitude. Giving a heading, climb and speed request, along with who is requesting the speed, is too much verbiage in one sentence. If I were only cleared to 5000 ft why mention 250 KTS at all? The same information as to who was requesting the speed was also being given to every aircraft departure talked to.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 OFF RWY 28 BWI COPIED CLRNC TURN HDG 120 DEGS, CLB 15000 FT, MAINTAIN 250 KTS PER CTR REQUEST. LEAVING 5000 FT CLRED TO MAINTAIN 6000 FT. OVERSHOT 6000 FT BY 300 FT AND CLRED AT THE SAME TIME TO 9000 FT. DEP CTLR ADVISED HAD MISSED THE READBACK OF 15000 FT. RPTR FEELS CTLR IS USING TOO MUCH VERBIAGE IN HIS ISSUE OF CLRNC.
Narrative: ON CLBOUT FROM BWI (RWY 28) DEP GAVE US 'TURN TO HDG 120 DEGS, CLB TO 15800 FT, MAINTAIN 250 KTS -- THE 250 KTS IS AT CTR REQUEST.' WE READ CLRNC BACK. JUST OUT OF 5000 FT DEP SAID 'MAINTAIN 6000 FT.' WE OVERSHOT 6000 FT BY +/- 300 FT. AT THE SAME TIME WE WERE TOLD TO MAINTAIN 9000 FT. I TOLD DEP WE HAD BEEN GIVEN 15000 FT AS A CLRNC ALT. DEP SAID 'I MISSED YOUR READBACK.' I DON'T KNOW IF WE SET OFF ANY LIGHTS BUT THERE WAS MISCOM ON THE CLRNC ALT. GIVING A HDG, CLB AND SPD REQUEST, ALONG WITH WHO IS REQUESTING THE SPD, IS TOO MUCH VERBIAGE IN ONE SENTENCE. IF I WERE ONLY CLRED TO 5000 FT WHY MENTION 250 KTS AT ALL? THE SAME INFO AS TO WHO WAS REQUESTING THE SPD WAS ALSO BEING GIVEN TO EVERY ACFT DEP TALKED TO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.