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Attributes | |
ACN | 353410 |
Time | |
Date | 199611 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 7800 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 353410 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 353407 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On a right downwind vector at 3500 ft to runways 24L/right lax. Traffic on final to runway 24 was called, subsequently sighted. Received 180 degree heading, then cleared for visual to follow traffic. Did not yet have airport in sight due to haze. Continued turn to 210 degree heading to intercept final. Lost sight of traffic then visually acquired airport (runways 25 first, then runways 24). Continued turn to approximately 265 degree heading to return to runway 24R final. Captain sighted and maintained visual on aircraft straight in to runway 25L. Throughout my maneuvering, approach called traffic and advised us of overshoot. Conflict was not a near miss but not an ideal scenario. Factors: haze caused visibility to decrease as we descended causing loss of sight of traffic to follow. Although the visual approach was legal, in retrospect we should have requested the ILS to runway 24L (runway 24R ILS inoperative) to ensure correct path.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 ON VISUAL APCH RWY 24R OVERSHOT CTRLINE AND CONFLICTED WITH A B747 ON FINAL FOR RWY 25R.
Narrative: ON A R DOWNWIND VECTOR AT 3500 FT TO RWYS 24L/R LAX. TFC ON FINAL TO RWY 24 WAS CALLED, SUBSEQUENTLY SIGHTED. RECEIVED 180 DEG HDG, THEN CLRED FOR VISUAL TO FOLLOW TFC. DID NOT YET HAVE ARPT IN SIGHT DUE TO HAZE. CONTINUED TURN TO 210 DEG HDG TO INTERCEPT FINAL. LOST SIGHT OF TFC THEN VISUALLY ACQUIRED ARPT (RWYS 25 FIRST, THEN RWYS 24). CONTINUED TURN TO APPROX 265 DEG HDG TO RETURN TO RWY 24R FINAL. CAPT SIGHTED AND MAINTAINED VISUAL ON ACFT STRAIGHT IN TO RWY 25L. THROUGHOUT MY MANEUVERING, APCH CALLED TFC AND ADVISED US OF OVERSHOOT. CONFLICT WAS NOT A NEAR MISS BUT NOT AN IDEAL SCENARIO. FACTORS: HAZE CAUSED VISIBILITY TO DECREASE AS WE DSNDED CAUSING LOSS OF SIGHT OF TFC TO FOLLOW. ALTHOUGH THE VISUAL APCH WAS LEGAL, IN RETROSPECT WE SHOULD HAVE REQUESTED THE ILS TO RWY 24L (RWY 24R ILS INOP) TO ENSURE CORRECT PATH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.