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Attributes | |
ACN | 353420 |
Time | |
Date | 199611 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : coe |
State Reference | ID |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : geg |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach ground : preflight landing other |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 353420 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 1000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 353415 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance inflight encounter other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
I called FSS and asked for a briefing for a flight from slc- boi-lws-coe. I was given airmets, sigmets, icing, current WX, forecasts, winds aloft, etc. I did not specifically ask for the NOTAMS, but I was also not advised of any. Late in the evening prior, I had been given a standard briefing with the NOTAMS. Upon arrival at boi, I called FSS and asked for the WX for lws and coe. I was given the current WX at both airports and advised that runway 11/29 at lws was closed, and runway 5/23 at coe was open full length (there had been a runway threshold previously). I was not advised that the runway was closed. Upon arrival at lws, I called FSS again and asked for the WX in coe. I also asked for the radar picture between the 2 airports, and if there were any pilot reports, etc. I was not told that runway 5/23 was closed. In the air en route to coe, I listened to the AWOS. There is a short gap between the WX and the comment section. As the flight is very short and we were being contacted by center, after hearing the WX, I switched off the #2 radio with the AWOS report. The WX reported was 1900 ft overcast, 1 1/4 mi visibility. When we were handed off to approach control, they asked us what type of approach we would like and, as I did not know runway 5 was closed, and due to the visibility, I requested the ILS runway 5. Approach never mentioned the runway closure and even advised us of an aircraft braking report from an hour prior, with braking action fair. I was having feedback from my radio and the WX was getting bumpy so, at the point when we were told to contact CTAF, we switched control of the airplane from the copilot to myself. I asked the copilot to report our approach to the airport, which he did. When we broke out, I saw trucks clearing the runway which I assumed was happening because they knew we were coming. When they were clear, we landed. We then returned to approach frequency briefly to cancel our flight plan and approach asked us what our braking action report was. I did not know that the runway was closed until I was inside the FBO and the airport manager approached me to advise me of the fact. There was also no indication that the runway was closed such as an X on the runway, etc.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ATX LTT JET CREW RPTS THAT THEY LANDED ON A CLOSED RWY AT COE. THE CAPT HAD CHKED THE NOTAMS AND WX WITH FSS THE NIGHT BEFORE AND BEFORE EACH LEG.
Narrative: I CALLED FSS AND ASKED FOR A BRIEFING FOR A FLT FROM SLC- BOI-LWS-COE. I WAS GIVEN AIRMETS, SIGMETS, ICING, CURRENT WX, FORECASTS, WINDS ALOFT, ETC. I DID NOT SPECIFICALLY ASK FOR THE NOTAMS, BUT I WAS ALSO NOT ADVISED OF ANY. LATE IN THE EVENING PRIOR, I HAD BEEN GIVEN A STANDARD BRIEFING WITH THE NOTAMS. UPON ARR AT BOI, I CALLED FSS AND ASKED FOR THE WX FOR LWS AND COE. I WAS GIVEN THE CURRENT WX AT BOTH ARPTS AND ADVISED THAT RWY 11/29 AT LWS WAS CLOSED, AND RWY 5/23 AT COE WAS OPEN FULL LENGTH (THERE HAD BEEN A RWY THRESHOLD PREVIOUSLY). I WAS NOT ADVISED THAT THE RWY WAS CLOSED. UPON ARR AT LWS, I CALLED FSS AGAIN AND ASKED FOR THE WX IN COE. I ALSO ASKED FOR THE RADAR PICTURE BTWN THE 2 ARPTS, AND IF THERE WERE ANY PLT RPTS, ETC. I WAS NOT TOLD THAT RWY 5/23 WAS CLOSED. IN THE AIR ENRTE TO COE, I LISTENED TO THE AWOS. THERE IS A SHORT GAP BTWN THE WX AND THE COMMENT SECTION. AS THE FLT IS VERY SHORT AND WE WERE BEING CONTACTED BY CTR, AFTER HEARING THE WX, I SWITCHED OFF THE #2 RADIO WITH THE AWOS RPT. THE WX RPTED WAS 1900 FT OVCST, 1 1/4 MI VISIBILITY. WHEN WE WERE HANDED OFF TO APCH CTL, THEY ASKED US WHAT TYPE OF APCH WE WOULD LIKE AND, AS I DID NOT KNOW RWY 5 WAS CLOSED, AND DUE TO THE VISIBILITY, I REQUESTED THE ILS RWY 5. APCH NEVER MENTIONED THE RWY CLOSURE AND EVEN ADVISED US OF AN ACFT BRAKING RPT FROM AN HR PRIOR, WITH BRAKING ACTION FAIR. I WAS HAVING FEEDBACK FROM MY RADIO AND THE WX WAS GETTING BUMPY SO, AT THE POINT WHEN WE WERE TOLD TO CONTACT CTAF, WE SWITCHED CTL OF THE AIRPLANE FROM THE COPLT TO MYSELF. I ASKED THE COPLT TO RPT OUR APCH TO THE ARPT, WHICH HE DID. WHEN WE BROKE OUT, I SAW TRUCKS CLRING THE RWY WHICH I ASSUMED WAS HAPPENING BECAUSE THEY KNEW WE WERE COMING. WHEN THEY WERE CLR, WE LANDED. WE THEN RETURNED TO APCH FREQ BRIEFLY TO CANCEL OUR FLT PLAN AND APCH ASKED US WHAT OUR BRAKING ACTION RPT WAS. I DID NOT KNOW THAT THE RWY WAS CLOSED UNTIL I WAS INSIDE THE FBO AND THE ARPT MGR APCHED ME TO ADVISE ME OF THE FACT. THERE WAS ALSO NO INDICATION THAT THE RWY WAS CLOSED SUCH AS AN X ON THE RWY, ETC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.