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Attributes | |
ACN | 353589 |
Time | |
Date | 199611 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 2000 agl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : stl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 320 |
ASRS Report | 353589 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Airport | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
This was my first exposure to stl's parallel/instrument/visual approachs to runways 12L/right and I was not impressed. They were conducting this operation in marginal conditions due to thick haze and overlying/shadowing cloud layer in vicinity of field. Several pilots complained about operations in WX to no avail. We were just able to see aircraft on lda runway 12L but never saw our own runway until 1-2 mi out. Whoever designed and whoever approved this procedure should be directly held responsible when an accident occurs. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: captain disliked the approach as he had difficulty seeing the runway all throughout the approach. He could always see the other aircraft, but not the intended runway to land on until he got close in for the landing. He doesn't like being cleared for an IFR approach and yet have to maintain a visual on the parallel aircraft. Captain felt it was a cheap way to increase airport capacity and that an accident will result from its use.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC DISAPPROVES OF PARALLEL INST VISUAL APCH INTO STL. MD88.
Narrative: THIS WAS MY FIRST EXPOSURE TO STL'S PARALLEL/INST/VISUAL APCHS TO RWYS 12L/R AND I WAS NOT IMPRESSED. THEY WERE CONDUCTING THIS OP IN MARGINAL CONDITIONS DUE TO THICK HAZE AND OVERLYING/SHADOWING CLOUD LAYER IN VICINITY OF FIELD. SEVERAL PLTS COMPLAINED ABOUT OPS IN WX TO NO AVAIL. WE WERE JUST ABLE TO SEE ACFT ON LDA RWY 12L BUT NEVER SAW OUR OWN RWY UNTIL 1-2 MI OUT. WHOEVER DESIGNED AND WHOEVER APPROVED THIS PROC SHOULD BE DIRECTLY HELD RESPONSIBLE WHEN AN ACCIDENT OCCURS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: CAPT DISLIKED THE APCH AS HE HAD DIFFICULTY SEEING THE RWY ALL THROUGHOUT THE APCH. HE COULD ALWAYS SEE THE OTHER ACFT, BUT NOT THE INTENDED RWY TO LAND ON UNTIL HE GOT CLOSE IN FOR THE LNDG. HE DOESN'T LIKE BEING CLRED FOR AN IFR APCH AND YET HAVE TO MAINTAIN A VISUAL ON THE PARALLEL ACFT. CAPT FELT IT WAS A CHEAP WAY TO INCREASE ARPT CAPACITY AND THAT AN ACCIDENT WILL RESULT FROM ITS USE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.