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Potential conflict when atx PA32 fails to give right of way to landing traffic at a non tower airport. Landing traffic, a twin cessna, is an FAA inspection aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 354000 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199611 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mmh |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 7400 flight time type : 90 |
| ASRS Report | 354096 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 2350 flight time type : 100 |
| ASRS Report | 354000 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 800 vertical : 600 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
I announced departure on runway 9, just after a cessna announced turning right base for runway 27. He asked if we knew he was on right base and I acknowledged. I was PNF doing radio. I saw him on his base as we took the runway. Pilot offset to the right after takeoff. I believe the other pilot could have landed but chose to go around. After event, someone called us on the radio. I was going to apologize as I did not realize the speed of the aircraft and the fact that he was a twin. In my judgement we had time to depart safely without affecting the other aircraft. The PF fearing a shouting match waved me off and we did not respond. We were told to call the fresno FSDO on monday. We were late according to our schedule for departure with our cargo. I also misjudged the type of speed of the aircraft inbound to the field. Supplemental information from acn 354096: first officer, newly hired, was under pressure not to speak to this captain. This is wrong and a new communication limit will be established between first officer and captain.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT WHEN ATX PA32 FAILS TO GIVE RIGHT OF WAY TO LNDG TFC AT A NON TWR ARPT. LNDG TFC, A TWIN CESSNA, IS AN FAA INSPECTION ACFT.
Narrative: I ANNOUNCED DEP ON RWY 9, JUST AFTER A CESSNA ANNOUNCED TURNING R BASE FOR RWY 27. HE ASKED IF WE KNEW HE WAS ON R BASE AND I ACKNOWLEDGED. I WAS PNF DOING RADIO. I SAW HIM ON HIS BASE AS WE TOOK THE RWY. PLT OFFSET TO THE R AFTER TKOF. I BELIEVE THE OTHER PLT COULD HAVE LANDED BUT CHOSE TO GAR. AFTER EVENT, SOMEONE CALLED US ON THE RADIO. I WAS GOING TO APOLOGIZE AS I DID NOT REALIZE THE SPD OF THE ACFT AND THE FACT THAT HE WAS A TWIN. IN MY JUDGEMENT WE HAD TIME TO DEPART SAFELY WITHOUT AFFECTING THE OTHER ACFT. THE PF FEARING A SHOUTING MATCH WAVED ME OFF AND WE DID NOT RESPOND. WE WERE TOLD TO CALL THE FRESNO FSDO ON MONDAY. WE WERE LATE ACCORDING TO OUR SCHEDULE FOR DEP WITH OUR CARGO. I ALSO MISJUDGED THE TYPE OF SPD OF THE ACFT INBOUND TO THE FIELD. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 354096: FO, NEWLY HIRED, WAS UNDER PRESSURE NOT TO SPEAK TO THIS CAPT. THIS IS WRONG AND A NEW COM LIMIT WILL BE ESTABLISHED BTWN FO AND CAPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.