Small aircraft pilot northbound in lax VFR corridor, exits corridor and attempts to contact bur TRAC...

Attributes
ACN	354102
Time
Date	199611
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : vny
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 6500 msl bound upper : 6500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : bur
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 2070 flight time type : 25
ASRS Report	354102
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I was northbound after exiting the special flight rules area of lax. I contacted socal approach on 134.2, apprising them of my position, which at the time was just past santa monica airport. They acknowledged my call and told me to stand by for a code. The frequency became very busy and I continued on course into class C airspace. I finally called socal approach back and they then gave me a code. They then asked me my altitude and I told them 6500 ft. The controller then said I did not have permission to enter class C airspace and that I should be more careful while exiting lax class B and special flight rules area. In this particular area there is very little room to maneuver due to the closeness of special flight area and burbank class C. I assumed (wrongly) that by talking to the controller and waiting for a code, that I could continue on course. I now know that I do need permission to enter class C by way of a transponder code instead of just verbal communication. The burbank class C, in the area I was in, is ceiling 4800 ft, floor 3500 ft. I was on V23. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states that he has heard nothing further from FAA. He was above the ceiling of class C when controller called, but he had climbed from the lax corridor altitude to 6500 ft going through the class C. He does not think the controller used his call sign when telling him to stand by for code, otherwise he would have been ok to enter the class C airspace. He does not like the idea of circling in that area because aircraft are on approachs to vny and of course into lax. This is a definite problem because of the close borders of the controled airspace in this area. There are changes planned in the class B airspace in july and reporter is concerned that it will be even more restrictive. His concern is that the pwrs that be are going to make it impossible for VFR traffic to fly in this area.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: SMA PLT NBOUND IN LAX VFR CORRIDOR, EXITS CORRIDOR AND ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT BUR TRACON. TOLD TO STAND BY FOR CODE. CONTINUES CLBING AND ENTERS CLASS C AIRSPACE PRIOR TO RECEIVING CODE.

Narrative: I WAS NBOUND AFTER EXITING THE SPECIAL FLT RULES AREA OF LAX. I CONTACTED SOCAL APCH ON 134.2, APPRISING THEM OF MY POS, WHICH AT THE TIME WAS JUST PAST SANTA MONICA ARPT. THEY ACKNOWLEDGED MY CALL AND TOLD ME TO STAND BY FOR A CODE. THE FREQ BECAME VERY BUSY AND I CONTINUED ON COURSE INTO CLASS C AIRSPACE. I FINALLY CALLED SOCAL APCH BACK AND THEY THEN GAVE ME A CODE. THEY THEN ASKED ME MY ALT AND I TOLD THEM 6500 FT. THE CTLR THEN SAID I DID NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO ENTER CLASS C AIRSPACE AND THAT I SHOULD BE MORE CAREFUL WHILE EXITING LAX CLASS B AND SPECIAL FLT RULES AREA. IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA THERE IS VERY LITTLE ROOM TO MANEUVER DUE TO THE CLOSENESS OF SPECIAL FLT AREA AND BURBANK CLASS C. I ASSUMED (WRONGLY) THAT BY TALKING TO THE CTLR AND WAITING FOR A CODE, THAT I COULD CONTINUE ON COURSE. I NOW KNOW THAT I DO NEED PERMISSION TO ENTER CLASS C BY WAY OF A XPONDER CODE INSTEAD OF JUST VERBAL COM. THE BURBANK CLASS C, IN THE AREA I WAS IN, IS CEILING 4800 FT, FLOOR 3500 FT. I WAS ON V23. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES THAT HE HAS HEARD NOTHING FURTHER FROM FAA. HE WAS ABOVE THE CEILING OF CLASS C WHEN CTLR CALLED, BUT HE HAD CLBED FROM THE LAX CORRIDOR ALT TO 6500 FT GOING THROUGH THE CLASS C. HE DOES NOT THINK THE CTLR USED HIS CALL SIGN WHEN TELLING HIM TO STAND BY FOR CODE, OTHERWISE HE WOULD HAVE BEEN OK TO ENTER THE CLASS C AIRSPACE. HE DOES NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF CIRCLING IN THAT AREA BECAUSE ACFT ARE ON APCHS TO VNY AND OF COURSE INTO LAX. THIS IS A DEFINITE PROB BECAUSE OF THE CLOSE BORDERS OF THE CTLED AIRSPACE IN THIS AREA. THERE ARE CHANGES PLANNED IN THE CLASS B AIRSPACE IN JULY AND RPTR IS CONCERNED THAT IT WILL BE EVEN MORE RESTRICTIVE. HIS CONCERN IS THAT THE PWRS THAT BE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR VFR TFC TO FLY IN THIS AREA.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Small aircraft pilot northbound in lax VFR corridor, exits corridor and attempts to contact bur TRACON. Told to stand by for code. Continues climbing and enters class C airspace prior to receiving code.