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Attributes | |
ACN | 356121 |
Time | |
Date | 199612 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : fqf airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8600 msl bound upper : 8600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Bonanza 35 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 22330 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 356121 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was conducting a biennial flight review in a C182. We were straight and level at 110 KIAS, heading 270 degrees. A beech 35 passed overhead and in front of us with less than 500 ft of clearance. The bonanza was heading about 290 degrees in a gradual descent, with an estimated 40-50 KT overtake. This appeared to be the classic high wing versus low wing blind spot problem. We were in the bonanza's blind spot, slightly low and to the right. He was in our blind spot coming from behind and above. This event happened in a high density traffic area underlying class B airspace. Both aircraft should probably have been communicating with approach control even though it wasn't required. I think most GA pilots still consider flight following from ATC a hassle. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't, but I think I will be requesting flight following more often.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN NMAC OCCURS BTWN A C182 AND A BE35 AS THEY FLY IN DEN AIRSPACE.
Narrative: I WAS CONDUCTING A BIENNIAL FLT REVIEW IN A C182. WE WERE STRAIGHT AND LEVEL AT 110 KIAS, HDG 270 DEGS. A BEECH 35 PASSED OVERHEAD AND IN FRONT OF US WITH LESS THAN 500 FT OF CLRNC. THE BONANZA WAS HDG ABOUT 290 DEGS IN A GRADUAL DSCNT, WITH AN ESTIMATED 40-50 KT OVERTAKE. THIS APPEARED TO BE THE CLASSIC HIGH WING VERSUS LOW WING BLIND SPOT PROB. WE WERE IN THE BONANZA'S BLIND SPOT, SLIGHTLY LOW AND TO THE R. HE WAS IN OUR BLIND SPOT COMING FROM BEHIND AND ABOVE. THIS EVENT HAPPENED IN A HIGH DENSITY TFC AREA UNDERLYING CLASS B AIRSPACE. BOTH ACFT SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH APCH CTL EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T REQUIRED. I THINK MOST GA PLTS STILL CONSIDER FLT FOLLOWING FROM ATC A HASSLE. SOMETIMES IT IS, SOMETIMES IT ISN'T, BUT I THINK I WILL BE REQUESTING FLT FOLLOWING MORE OFTEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.