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Attributes | |
ACN | 356788 |
Time | |
Date | 199612 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pit |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 2250 |
ASRS Report | 356788 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
After clearing runway 7L ground control told us to taxi via the north route to the gate. On taxiway Q, we changed to north ground control at chkpoint #1 and checked in. We were told to 'standby' by the same individual working south ground control. We continued to taxi under our previous clearance to taxiway east to our gate. After established on taxiway east, ground control asked where we were. After we responded 'on taxiway east,' the controller told us 'standby' meant 'stop.' never has such an ambiguous transmission been given by lax ground (or any other ground) to mean 'stop.' previously, 'hold short of taxiway D' had been given meaning to stop on taxiway Q northbound. We took 'standby' from the overtaxed ground controller to mean continue as cleared, but don't call him, he'll call us. The fact that the same individual was working 2 ground control frequencys at lax (south 121.75 and north 121.65) overloaded this individual so that he could not remember what he said to whom. There were no conflicts on the taxi into our gate. The controller indicated there would be no violation, but he did seem stressed out at the overall situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG WAS GIVEN THE COMMAND 'STANDBY' BY AN OVERWHELMED LAX ATCT GND CTLR. THE RPTR CONTINUED WHEN THE CTLR MEANT FOR THE ACFT TO STOP.
Narrative: AFTER CLRING RWY 7L GND CTL TOLD US TO TAXI VIA THE N RTE TO THE GATE. ON TXWY Q, WE CHANGED TO N GND CTL AT CHKPOINT #1 AND CHKED IN. WE WERE TOLD TO 'STANDBY' BY THE SAME INDIVIDUAL WORKING S GND CTL. WE CONTINUED TO TAXI UNDER OUR PREVIOUS CLRNC TO TXWY E TO OUR GATE. AFTER ESTABLISHED ON TXWY E, GND CTL ASKED WHERE WE WERE. AFTER WE RESPONDED 'ON TXWY E,' THE CTLR TOLD US 'STANDBY' MEANT 'STOP.' NEVER HAS SUCH AN AMBIGUOUS XMISSION BEEN GIVEN BY LAX GND (OR ANY OTHER GND) TO MEAN 'STOP.' PREVIOUSLY, 'HOLD SHORT OF TXWY D' HAD BEEN GIVEN MEANING TO STOP ON TXWY Q NBOUND. WE TOOK 'STANDBY' FROM THE OVERTAXED GND CTLR TO MEAN CONTINUE AS CLRED, BUT DON'T CALL HIM, HE'LL CALL US. THE FACT THAT THE SAME INDIVIDUAL WAS WORKING 2 GND CTL FREQS AT LAX (S 121.75 AND N 121.65) OVERLOADED THIS INDIVIDUAL SO THAT HE COULD NOT REMEMBER WHAT HE SAID TO WHOM. THERE WERE NO CONFLICTS ON THE TAXI INTO OUR GATE. THE CTLR INDICATED THERE WOULD BE NO VIOLATION, BUT HE DID SEEM STRESSED OUT AT THE OVERALL SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.