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Attributes | |
ACN | 356878 |
Time | |
Date | 199701 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : osi airport : oak |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 356878 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Marina 3 departure requires 2 xings: one is osi VOR 028 degree radial at 15 DME at or above 6000 ft, the second is osi VOR 028 radial 24 DME at or above 11000 ft. Suspecting that this may be difficult to comply with I elected to climb at 210 KIAS slats extended instead of cleaning up and flying the 250 KIAS. We made the first crossing ok but were not going to make the second one. I informed ATC and they removed it. We had no anti-icing on at the time. This SID requires a climb in excess of the S80 capability given takeoff weights that we normally see out of oak for flts to dfw. Takeoff weight 148000 outside air temperature 60 degrees F.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC ON THE MARINA 3 SID FINDS THAT THEY ARE TOO HVY TO CROSS THE OSI 028-24 AT OR ABOVE 11000 FT. THEY ADVISE THE CTLR. MD80, SUPER 80.
Narrative: MARINA 3 DEP REQUIRES 2 XINGS: ONE IS OSI VOR 028 DEG RADIAL AT 15 DME AT OR ABOVE 6000 FT, THE SECOND IS OSI VOR 028 RADIAL 24 DME AT OR ABOVE 11000 FT. SUSPECTING THAT THIS MAY BE DIFFICULT TO COMPLY WITH I ELECTED TO CLB AT 210 KIAS SLATS EXTENDED INSTEAD OF CLEANING UP AND FLYING THE 250 KIAS. WE MADE THE FIRST XING OK BUT WERE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE SECOND ONE. I INFORMED ATC AND THEY REMOVED IT. WE HAD NO ANTI-ICING ON AT THE TIME. THIS SID REQUIRES A CLB IN EXCESS OF THE S80 CAPABILITY GIVEN TKOF WTS THAT WE NORMALLY SEE OUT OF OAK FOR FLTS TO DFW. TKOF WT 148000 OUTSIDE AIR TEMP 60 DEGS F.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.